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Tomatovillian™
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Seedling on warm layer by Patrix
Hello I share my experience and my method 2012 Warm(hot?) layer with fresh horse manure The heat acts as a turbo temperature of the layer .35 ° / 40 ° Celsius 42 days DECOU3.bmp Patrix 
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Tomatovillian™
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Some of your attachments didn't come through. But what did come through is awesome and beautiful!
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Preparation of the hot (warm?) layer
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Tomatovillian™
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Tomatovillian™
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That looks like a very interesting intensive technique. Let me ask if I am seeing and interpreting it correctly
Basically you are making a raised seedling bed early in the year when the soil is still cold. (we sometimes call this a "cold frame") Under your raised bed is a layer of fresh manure with a barrier between the soil and the manure and on top of everything some clear plastic or glass. This would warm the soil inbetween from both the bottom and the top. Then you start your seeds using the paper towel technique and transplant them when they show signs of sprouting. This would allow you to get your seedlings in the warm soil much earlier in the spring than everyone else. They would grow faster due to the soil being so warm already. Avoiding the need for pots. Then finally transplaning them outside of any green house, hoop house or cold frame once the regular garden is warm. Is this correct?
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Scott AKA The Redbaron "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system." Bill Mollison co-founder of permaculture Last edited by Redbaron; November 26, 2012 at 05:51 PM. |
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Tomatovillian™
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Hello Redbaron
I try to explain my method step by step 1 do germinate seeds on wet paper towel 2 horse manure in the hole 3 water, then crush with feet 4 to the frame above 5 fill the frame with soil 6 cover with a window frame 7 5/6jours expect that the temperature rises to 50 ° / 60 ° Celsius (fermentation) 8 when the soil temperature drops to 35 ° / 45 °. Planting seedlings in the soil 9 ajar the window during the day. Closing the window the night 10 after a month replant seedlings in the ground this is not a cold frame is a frame hot (warm?) this is an old practice,forgotten today seedlings on absorbent paper on April 15. planting in the ground on May 15 Patrix ;-) Last edited by PATRIX; November 26, 2012 at 06:55 PM. |
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Tomatovillian™
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Yes, in English a "cold frame" is warm. It means a way to keep seedlings warm when the weather is still cold. I have actually used a variation of the technique many many years ago. Your variation looks much better!
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November 27, 2012
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Patrix
I have seen that method used before in Europe. Thanks for posting your experience. Beautiful! What varieties do you grow?
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hi Michael
Do you want my list ? it's tall My favorites is Ananas Rose de Berne Brandywine Ananas noir Raisin vert |
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Tomatovillian™
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Ma liste 2012
1 Brandywine 2 Ananas 3 Hillbilly potatos leaf 4 Noire de Cosseboeuf 5 Noire de Crimée 6 Rose de Berne 7 Evergreen 8 Pamplemousse du grand père 9 Orange russian 10 Stupice 11 Shimmeig striped hollow 12 Prune verte 13 Brandywine purple 14 Ananas noir 15 Osu 10 16 Sweet 100 F3 17 St Jean d'Angély 18 Azoychka russian 19 Arbuznyi 20 Raisin vert 21 Perlinio F1 22 Tiny tim 23 Violet jasper tzibiu 24 Auriga |
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