Piennolo del Vesuvio

[recruiterg]

Is anyone growing Piennolo del Vesuvio? Could anyone post pictures in this thread of the leaf shape and fruit clusters?

Any comments or feedback on the variety? Taste? Productivity?

[tlintx]

Just seedlings so far. Lovely potato leaf, very delicate looking.

Tl

[Heritage]

Originally Posted by recruiterg

Is anyone growing Piennolo del Vesuvio? Could anyone post pictures in this thread of the leaf shape and fruit clusters?

Any comments or feedback on the variety? Taste? Productivity?

Sorry, no photos processed yet - they are still on my card.

I grew out 2 plants from seed supplied by Darrell Jones. It is a potato leaf plant, cherry-sized (elongated plum shape) deep-red fruit, with a pronounced nipple. 2 locules per fruit; many seeds, typical of cherry varieties. Can't remember for sure but I think the trusses were branched (as opposed to symmetrical) Great hang time on the plant, and great shelf life. Flavor, especially late in the season was excellent (but not always consistent) - a very good balance of rich/sweet, not overbearing. Would be suitable for market, eating fresh, or canning. Slightly thick skin might be a turn-off for some when eating fresh - I didn't think it was a distraction. My plants started out meekly but then geared-up and finished aggressively. I picked 2 gallons of fruit yesterday (from 2 plants).

Steve

[recruiterg]

Anyone else. I'd really like to see a picture of leaf shape and fruit cluster.

Thanks, Pat

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by recruiterg

Anyone else. I'd really like to see a picture of leaf shape and fruit cluster.

Thanks, Pat

I did a Google search and came up with some pictures;

http://www.google.com/#bav=on.2,or.r...suvio+tomatoes

But was surprised when I looked at Tania's page for it to find out that it's the same as the Grappoli Inverno one, winter grape, which has been around forever.

Carolyn

[Fusion_power]

It is not the same as Grappoli any more than Faux Red Brandywine is the same as Neves Azorean Red.

Piennolo del Vesuvio = Potato leaf, compact indeterminate, heavy production, thick skin, hangs on the plant a very long time, reaches best flavor 5 to 7 days after fruit first shows color, flavor is rich and intense, distinctive nipples form as fruit matures, fruit tends to have 2 or 3 locules.

I grew it in fertile heavy red clay soil which distinctly had an impact on flavor. I have a couple of young plants in the garden which I will bring indoors in a few weeks.

DarJones

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Fusion_power

It is not the same as Grappoli any more than Faux Red Brandywine is the same as Neves Azorean Red.

Piennolo del Vesuvio = Potato leaf, compact indeterminate, heavy production, thick skin, hangs on the plant a very long time, reaches best flavor 5 to 7 days after fruit first shows color, flavor is rich and intense, distinctive nipples form as fruit matures, fruit tends to have 2 or 3 locules.

I grew it in fertile heavy red clay soil which distinctly had an impact on flavor. I have a couple of young plants in the garden which I will bring indoors in a few weeks.

DarJones

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...lo_Del_Vesuvio

Darrel, perhaps badly worded by me, but this one and the Grappoli one, also from Italy and clickable at the above link, are both referred to as winter tomatoes, and there are several others sourced from Spain as well.

I didn't mean to imply that the two were absolutely identical as to plant habit , etc., I meant to imply that usage was the same,which it is.

Carolyn

[MrBig46]

Piennolo is ancient process of conservation involves harvesting tomatoes on the stalk in clusters. The petioles are wound together with hemp string into one large cluster which is then suspended from the ceiling of a suitable environment all winter. This, combined with the special environmental framework of the Vesuvius area, has led to a product which is unique in its kind for its organoleptic qualities.
The Dop «Pomodorino del Piennolo del Vesuvio» is the designation for the fruit of the tomato ecotypes with the popular names: “Fiaschella,” “Lampadina,” “Patanara,” “Principe Borghese.” and “Re Umberto.”
Grappoli d´Inverno is tomato, which use for piennolo too.
Piennolo looks about this (my experiment about czech piennolo last year)
Vladimír

[NarnianGarden]

That looks lovely and fresh, Vladimir! Very appetizing. Wish I had such a cluster hanging from the ceiling ... Perhaps next year.

[MrBig46]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

That looks lovely and fresh, Vladimir! Very appetizing. Wish I had such a cluster hanging from the ceiling ... Perhaps next year.

But it don´t happen me. I had to end off it in November. Tomato Principe Borghese had much water. I test it this year again. Tomato plant in container, much wooden ash (P,K,Ca) and a little water.
Vladimír

[NarnianGarden]

OK. How did they taste in November?

[MrBig46]

Didn´t smack me in August, September, October and neither in November.It is missing me lava from Vesuvio or its chemical structure.
Vladimír

[Fusion_power]

Piennolo has a distinctive requirement to grow in mineral rich soil to attain flavor and keeping qualities.

/me notes that vladimer was not "gobsmacked" i.e. "impressed" with it.

[NarnianGarden]

Hmm, perhaps a new business opportunity for the folks living near Vesuvio?
Selling vulcanic soil and ashes for gardeners around the world... ? It might prove quite profitable in these economically unstable times...

I think there has been a documentary on a strawberry cultivar that grows in similar circumstances - people come from afar to that village near the vulcano just to buy their delicious fruit.

[MrBig46]

I know, that Principe Borghese will be most delicious tomato at no time. But I am taking interest to store them to the spring of next year (as a piennolo).
Lava of Vesuvio is rich in silicon and potassium. This is the way, which I want to go. I add
potassium.
I plant principe Borghese dissimilar concepts:
-as an indeterminante tomato with the prunning (one plant)
-as a determinante tomato in the bed (six plants)
-as a determinante tomato in the container
-as a determinante tomato in the bad from the direct growing 26.5.2013
Because I didn´t eat this tomato this year still, I degusted its on the garden today. I think, that was better than last year.
I am testing tomato Ramallet too. Spanish variant of Piennolo planted in Mallorca ( lava too).
This is my pleasure.
Vladimír