Group Compost Buy - NYC Queens Long Island Area?

blackcat54 · February 8, 2014

I live in Queens NY zip 11426 and found an outfit up in Westchester (CompostWerks) that will deliver 3 cubic yards of compost for $60/yd. This is organic high quality compost that is claimed to be far superior to bagged variety. Anyone nearby want to go in on a group buy? Myself and two others would be ideal.

luigiwu · February 8, 2014

I am not too far from you but I would still have to figure out how to get it home... tell me, have you seen this stuff for yourself? what is your mix for your containers? I envision myself having to buy bags and bags of potting mix as I have 30 containers currently planned....

gssgarden · February 8, 2014

What are they getting to deliver?? Prob ain't cheap!!

I'm sure there is some other recycling plant in Nassau you can get it from. I know plenty in Suffolk but will cost plenty to deliver. Better, and cheaper to find a friend with a truck.

Greg

Worth1 · February 8, 2014

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Originally Posted by gssgarden

What are they getting to deliver?? Prob ain't cheap!!

I'm sure there is some other recycling plant in Nassau you can get it from. I know plenty in Suffolk but will cost plenty to deliver. Better, and cheaper to find a friend with a truck.

Greg

At $60 a yard I would suspect that is the total price.
I can pick up as much as I can haul here for $33.00 a yard.

Worth

Father'sDaughter · February 8, 2014

As Worth said that might be the price for the full load. If not, $60/a yard seems high, unless compost prices have skyrocketed. When I built my second raised bed a few years ago, a local place was selling high quality compost for $27 a yard with free delivery if bought three yards. I would call and double check pricing.

gssgarden · February 8, 2014

The way he wrote it...$60/yd..looks like $60 per yard. Expensive, yes, but that's NY for ya!!

Probably for the 3 yards. I'd be surprised if someone is coming from Westchester to Queens at no charge!! There are tolls too!

Greg

luigiwu · February 8, 2014

I agree Greg, it might be cheaper getting it from some place on Long Island instead where there would be no tolls.

gssgarden · February 8, 2014

In Suffolk County, on L.I., residents can go to certain recycling plants and get it for free if they load it themselves. They'll charge you if they need a pay loader to load you up.

But from Queens, it's a looooong ride!!! hence, LONG Island!

Greg

Doug9345 · February 8, 2014

If you figure half the money is for the compost and half for the delivery then $90 is for delivery. According to Google it's 36 mile and 46 minutes, round trip that 72 miles and 2 hours. even with a fairly modern 1-ton truck (which should carry 3 yard because a one ton truck actual carries a lot more) will get no better than 15 mpg gallon. Fuel will cost about $21. The driver is would get at least $12/hr even in upstate, there will be $3 or more in various pay taxes and costs. that means $30 dollars for the driver if he can do it in 2 hours. In Westchester it's likely half again as much. $50,000 that goes 200,000 miles costs 25¢/mile, that's another $18. That's $69 without maintenance, insurance for the vehicle and figuring that the company is willing to make all their profit on the dirt. They are providing the delivery pretty close to cost.

Worth1 · February 8, 2014

You dont figure they would bring it in a dump truck?
Most 1 ton trucks dont have a dump bed and I would hate to shovel 3 yards of soil out of a truck bed.
That would be even more time for the driver.

I had a 1 ton diesel 8 foot bed and I think all I could get to fit in the bed was 2 yards maybe 3, I dont remember.
The GVWR was 13,000 pounds and the GCVWR was 29,000 pounds I think.
I know 1 yard of decomposed granite and some other stones will make my 1/2 ton squat.

By the way Blackcat54 can fill up 27 of those planters with a yard of soil, they better get busy.

Worth

Doug9345 · February 8, 2014

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Originally Posted by Worth1

You dont figure they would bring it in a dump truck?
Most 1 ton trucks dont have a dump bed and I would hate to shovel 3 yards of soil out of a truck bed.
That would be even more time for the driver.

I had a 1 ton diesel 8 foot bed and I think all I could get to fit in the bed was 2 yards maybe 3, I dont remember.
The GVWR was 13,000 pounds and the GCVWR was 29,000 pounds I think.
I know 1 yard of decomposed granite and some other stones will make my 1/2 ton squat.

By the way Blackcat54 can fill up 27 of those planters with a yard of soil, they better get busy.

Worth

Most landscapers around here run that sort of dump truck. I can buy one on most any Ford or Chevy truck lot all put together or buy a cab and chassis and put my own box on it. Syracuse's craiglist has a dozen of them of some form, about half with plows. Older used ones tend to sell for more than F600, C60, C6000, etc class dumps of the same vintage.

In my area the people that own duellies do so for one reason, to pull a trailer. Horse people are likely the biggest group followed by RV's with big fifth wheels and Caranval operators.

Worth1 · February 9, 2014

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Originally Posted by Doug9345

Most landscapers run that sort of Dump truck. I can buy one on most any Ford or Chevy truck lot all put together or buy a cab and chassis and put my own box on it. Syracuse's craiglist has a dozen of them of some form about half with plows. Older used ones tend to sell for more than dumps the same vintage of the F600, C60, C6000, etc class.

In my area there are the groups of people that own duellies. All do so for one reason, to pull a trailer. Horse people are likely the biggest group followed by RV's with big fifth wheels and Caranval operators.

All they have here is the huge 10 or 14 yard trucks I used to drive one between jobs.
It is rare you see a 1 ton dump here the last one I saw was full of oats.
As for the duelies like I had being Texas you can only imagine.
I think Texas has the most people with 4X4 1 ton diesels that have no use for them than any other state.

The kids here in town pull the mufflers hop up the engine and run huge stacks up the back of the cab.

Black smoke just roles out of the pipes when they take off and noisy as can be.
I cant complain I did the same thing at one time.

Worth

Father'sDaughter · February 8, 2014

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Originally Posted by Doug9345

If you figure half the money is for the compost and half for the delivery then $90 is for delivery. According to Google it's 36 mile and 46 minutes, round trip that 72 miles and 2 hours. even with a fairly modern 1-ton truck (which should carry 3 yard because a one ton truck actual carries a lot more) will get no better than 15 mpg gallon. Fuel will cost about $21. The driver is would get at least $12/hr even in upstate, there will be $3 or more in various pay taxes and costs. that means $30 dollars for the driver if he can do it in 2 hours. In Westchester it's likely half again as much. $50,000 that goes 200,000 miles costs 25¢/mile, that's another $18. That's $69 without maintenance, insurance for the vehicle and figuring that the company is willing to make all their profit on the dirt. They are providing the delivery pretty close to cost.

Ouch! I guess Urban gardening can be quite costly.

Doug9345 · February 9, 2014

A few years ago when I was thinking about getting a diesel dully I had intended to go to Texas to get one because they get traded in because they aren't the latest model, instead of when they have been eat to death like they tend to be around here.

blackcat54 · February 9, 2014

The compost is from here : http://www.compostwerks.com/bulk-compost-and-mulch

The $60/yard includes delivery for 3 yards min, and it's organic (no municipal sewage).

I haven't seen it, but I trust Peter at Compostwerks.

My growing mix is 1/3 compost, 1/3 vermiculite, 1/3 peat moss.

February 8, 2014	#1
blackcat54 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: NY Posts: 25	Group Compost Buy - NYC Queens Long Island Area? I live in Queens NY zip 11426 and found an outfit up in Westchester (CompostWerks) that will deliver 3 cubic yards of compost for $60/yd. This is organic high quality compost that is claimed to be far superior to bagged variety. Anyone nearby want to go in on a group buy? Myself and two others would be ideal.

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luigiwu Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: ny Posts: 1,219	I am not too far from you but I would still have to figure out how to get it home... tell me, have you seen this stuff for yourself? what is your mix for your containers? I envision myself having to buy bags and bags of potting mix as I have 30 containers currently planned.... Last edited by luigiwu; February 8, 2014 at 07:56 PM.

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Father'sDaughter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: MA/NH Border Posts: 4,919	Group Compost Buy - NYC Queens Long Island Area? As Worth said that might be the price for the full load. If not, $60/a yard seems high, unless compost prices have skyrocketed. When I built my second raised bed a few years ago, a local place was selling high quality compost for $27 a yard with free delivery if bought three yards. I would call and double check pricing.

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Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	You dont figure they would bring it in a dump truck? Most 1 ton trucks dont have a dump bed and I would hate to shovel 3 yards of soil out of a truck bed. That would be even more time for the driver. I had a 1 ton diesel 8 foot bed and I think all I could get to fit in the bed was 2 yards maybe 3, I dont remember. The GVWR was 13,000 pounds and the GCVWR was 29,000 pounds I think. I know 1 yard of decomposed granite and some other stones will make my 1/2 ton squat. By the way Blackcat54 can fill up 27 of those planters with a yard of soil, they better get busy. Worth Last edited by Worth1; February 8, 2014 at 10:42 PM.

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blackcat54 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: NY Posts: 25	The compost is from here : http://www.compostwerks.com/bulk-compost-and-mulch The $60/yard includes delivery for 3 yards min, and it's organic (no municipal sewage). I haven't seen it, but I trust Peter at Compostwerks. My growing mix is 1/3 compost, 1/3 vermiculite, 1/3 peat moss. Last edited by blackcat54; February 9, 2014 at 03:15 AM.

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gssgarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,827	What are they getting to deliver?? Prob ain't cheap!! I'm sure there is some other recycling plant in Nassau you can get it from. I know plenty in Suffolk but will cost plenty to deliver. Better, and cheaper to find a friend with a truck. Greg

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Doug9345 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Durhamville,NY Posts: 2,706	If you figure half the money is for the compost and half for the delivery then $90 is for delivery. According to Google it's 36 mile and 46 minutes, round trip that 72 miles and 2 hours. even with a fairly modern 1-ton truck (which should carry 3 yard because a one ton truck actual carries a lot more) will get no better than 15 mpg gallon. Fuel will cost about $21. The driver is would get at least $12/hr even in upstate, there will be $3 or more in various pay taxes and costs. that means $30 dollars for the driver if he can do it in 2 hours. In Westchester it's likely half again as much. $50,000 that goes 200,000 miles costs 25¢/mile, that's another $18. That's $69 without maintenance, insurance for the vehicle and figuring that the company is willing to make all their profit on the dirt. They are providing the delivery pretty close to cost.