Tomato development timeline.

[epsilon]

I'm starting this because I had a hard time finding the tomato site that follows the development of the fruit. That and I can get slightly higher quality photo's. As the flowers/ fruit continue to develop I'll update with more pics and commentary.


Day 0: the buds begin to form along the newest growth tissue.
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Day ±3: The buds continue to swell, the truss also begins developing and becoming beefier.
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[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by epsilon

I'm starting this because I had a hard time finding the tomato site that follows the development of the fruit. That and I can get slightly higher quality photo's. As the flowers/ fruit continue to develop I'll update with more pics and commentary.


Day 0: the buds begin to form along the newest growth tissue.
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Day ±3: The buds continue to swell, the truss also begins developing and becoming beefier.
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http://web.archive.org/web/201012180...Truss_Timeline

Above is Paul's original timeline rescued via the wayback site.

Carolyn

[feldon30]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

http://web.archive.org/web/201012180...Truss_Timeline

Above is Paul's original timeline rescued via the wayback site.

Carolyn

I've also wanted to see that page sometimes and been unable to find it because you have to search the wayback machine.

Out of concern that the site may vanish one day, I've archived a copy here with all due credit given:
http://feldoncentral.com/garden/tomato_timeline.html

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by feldon30

I've also wanted to see that page sometimes and been unable to find it because you have to search the wayback machine.

Out of concern that the site may vanish one day, I've archived a copy here with all due credit given:
http://feldoncentral.com/garden/tomato_timeline.html

It wasn't me who went to the way back machine, it was PNW_D who did so, and I've had it in my faves for quite a few years, I just have to find it in my faves b'c I'm at the 2000 items allowed limit and to add a new fave have to sit there and delete useless ones.

Denise has saved many other important ones from Wayback as well.

I knew Paul quite well b/c when several of us wrote the new FAQ's at GW, and I was the so called coordinator of that project, Paul did all the uploading of text and contributed pictures.

Right now I can't think of the other really major one she pieced together from wayback, it will come to me eventually, I would assume, ,but it too is in my faves.

Carolyn

[carolyn137]

http://sev.lternet.edu/~jnekola/Heirloom/plantlist.htm

Above is the other one Denise pieced together. I think I linked to the Home page, but to view tomatoes or peppers or garlic pictures and descriptions, just click on those catelgories.

The site was put up by Dr. Jeff Nekola who I think was at the U of MN, many of us corresponded with him back then and sent him seeds and he got his own as well, he also was in charge of plant sales that the U of MN did.

There's some history there that's not well known, for those interested in that kind of information, for all three categories.

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

[bower]

Wow, a timeline from bud all the way to rotten fruit! My timeline has a place early on with "ripening fruit stolen by hungry animal" in it. (Yes, I'm usually the animal).

Some truss timeline trivia that might be of interest: The length of time from germination to flowering, from flowering to setting, and from setting to ripening, are each under separate genetic control. The length of those intervals can also be affected by environmental factors.

Epsilon, I like your furry flower closeups.

[ddsack]

Epsilon, keep posting your succession photos in this thread. I really love the micro views with all the hairy little goodies.

[epsilon]

I was wondering about the particularities as to how long it would take after ripe for some critter to get to a fruit. maybe the critter loves tomatoes and has been wondering whats up with the gwr varieties? maybe the critter has found several other tomatoes to eat instead? Nature is just so highly variable.

Feldon

I see you have had the same range of speculation on the future availability of that site, I'm always haunted by my IT professors words "make copies of everything, your data will never be safe without at least three forms of redundancy!" So it's nice to know that you have the info archived, and I'm doing this for two reasons.

1. to make sure theres an alternate, and hopefully more permanent copy available on the interwebs.

2. I've actually never followed the process and it's an interesting thing for me to watch and make notes, normally I spot them and take it the magic of the veggie garden.

I would have never guessed that there were genetics that governed each part of truss development independently. I just learned another something today

Bower

Apparently you can take really great macros with a cell phone. All you have to do is get really close and then zoom in. I used just try to get close and then snap the photo, but the pictures were always super blurry. later I was playing with settings and noticed how detailed a super zoomed in picture of my finger print was one day which was an awesome discovery for me because unless it's taking staged photos, I really get tired of dragging the Nikon around with me to take picks in the garden.

And until yesterday I had never really noticed just how fuzzy tomatoes really are. it's like a teddy bear almost

[Lee]

Nice photos Epsilon. I look forward to seeing your continued results!

Lee

[epsilon]

This is day 7 Notice the truss has continues to elongate as well as thicken up a little more.
The flower buds are still swelling

On another note, we've had a few nights under 50º this week so I wonder if they're developing a little slower than normal.My hope is that the lows don't hit anywhere near 45º tonight and tomorrow, I have a nice fused blossom that I would like to set and if it dip's under the fifties it probably won't.

[bower]

Epsilon, which variety are you showing us here?

You know, some vars are blossom-droppy and some are not. Temps below 50 F are no big deal for a lot of tomatoes. Below 45 F maybe a different story, but 48 is almost as good as 50 afaict.... but of course, I never grow late season cold intolerant types.. they would never fruit here.

[clkeiper]

Your photos are fabulous. great job. May I ask why you would like the fused blossom set? I usually pick them off.

[epsilon]

Bower

The variety shown here is Aunt Ruby's German Green. I think I worry about my temperature ranges because I've had it in ground since march and it only in the last few weeks has been showing real nice growth and development unlike the way it had been slightly stunted in march.
But I think I've been a little overly protective of them this year, so i have to stop that before I kill them with kindness.

Clkeiper

Thank you for the compliments on my tomato pics and I'm glad you enjoy them.

About the fused blossoms.
I really like huge, monstrous looking things, fused blooms allow for that. Also in my mind a fused blossom = more tomato for the $,

I know I could focus on growing the prize winners, but I hear they're not good to eat.

So in my book if it wants to be a bigger tomato, than I want it to achieve it's goals, Because i want it to be a bigger tomato too.

[epsilon]

Day 11: The blossom begins to open now, it's still very compact, but this will change over the next few days. Behind you can still see new buds developing on the the truss.

I wonder what part of gene expression covers continual bloom development?

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[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Day 11: The blossom begins to open now, it's still very compact, but this will change over the next few days. Behind you can still see new buds developing on the the truss.

I wonder what part of gene expression covers continual bloom development?

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All I can tell you is that the blossom cycle is about two weeks and since each plant has buds and blossoms at random, the plant keeps blossoming.

Looking at it another way, if you take all buds and blossoms off a plant before setting it out it takes about two weeks until you see new buds,

Carolyn