growing out rootstock

[heirloomtomaguy]

I may have missed this in a previous post but has anyone ever grew out estamino or supernatural rootstock and if so how did the tomatoes turn out. How did the f2 f3...... plants turn out.

[heirloomtomaguy]

Oh and by the way if anyone else is interested i have quite a few plants that grew way to fast when i went on vacation for a week. They are in 4 inch pots and are a foot tall. If you live anywhere near me i will give you a plant for free.

[Uncle Dunkel]

Im thinking about growing some out for seeds.

[JamesL]

For what purpose?
I did unintentionally grow out a pair of Maxifort last year. Once it started fruiting I realized what it was.
Massive plants. I dispatched it mid August and the stumps regrew and flowered.
As it is an F1 I had no intention of saving seed. The offspring should be all over the place.

[heirloomtomaguy]

Sorry i meant to say f 3 f4 and so on in my above post. Since it is a f 1 hybrid i was going to grow out the tomatoes and replant to see what type of plants i might get just as a experiment. Sometimes seed companies claim f1 hybrids to discourage saving seeds from their rootstock varieties. The descriptions on the seed packets say that if you grow out the plant that it will have green no edible tomatoes on the plants so i figured why not give it a try and find out. So JamesL how were the fruits on the maxifort?

[JamesL]

Ah. I have read that about several eating hybrids that were really stable OP's. Had not heard that about rootstock.
If you have the space and the time, sure why not?

Maxifort tomato - yellowish cherry. Tasting it - a spitter for sure.

[heirloomtomaguy]

Yeah its the f2 f3 and so on fruit that would be interesting. Possibly trying to determine which tomato varieties were used in the cross if in fact the rootstock is a hybrid. I guess i will find out.

[feldon30]

Wow these seed companies are proud of their seeds. $20-25 for 50 seeds of Estamino.

[JamesL]

Feldon,
Paramount has the best prices. After shipping it was $30 for 100.

[heirloomtomaguy]

I got them at high mowing seeds 25 organic estamino seeds for 13.50. The bummer is out of 20 plants 12 of them grew to big to quick.

[aclum]

Hi,

It seems that if you're going to grow out your rootstock, you could use suckers from your "grown out" plants as rootstock for either a new batch of scions or possibly suckers from your current scions. You could either root the small rootstock suckers and graft to those or (recommended ) use them for no root grafting.

Anne

[heirloomtomaguy]

Its funny you should mention that because some of the plants were the upper half of the rootstock replanted and grown again. Those plants are only 6 inches tall. I will have to try the suckers though. Not a bad idea Anne.

[JamesL]

Garrett,
What Anne said! Rooting the tops or suckers in damp DE works perfectly. I was rooting them and sticking them in the humidity chambers with the grafted plants. I probably could have started with 1/3 to 1/2 less rootstock as I have so much left over.
If you are going to grow a few rootstock plants out you should be able to keep taking cuttings all year and not start any more seed.
And if you haven't used Delerium's No Roots method yet, you should. It is the winning method by a wide margin.

[heirloomtomaguy]

I will have try that method for sure. I have put cuttings and suckers in rockwool with pretty good success. I was also thinking of using a couple of the plants that got away to do multiple grafts on a single plant.

[mensplace]

Has anyone used interstem grafting wherein one section is for those properties of disease/virus resistance, an interstem for size control, and the top for the scion's features and characteristics?