Stupice tomato

Errol · April 22, 2015

this will be my first year growing Stupice tomatoes. I know it is a indeterminate , but I am confused as some says it grows to a height of 2ft-4ft, then I have heard that it will grow to height of 6ft-10ft !! so can anyone tell me how tall will these plants get? thanks
Errol

NarnianGarden · April 22, 2015

Last year, ours grew more to the height of 4ft, at a sunny porch. The yield was good.
Compared to some other varieties that grew huge (Ambrosia... that was a giant!) it definitely stayed on the smaller side. (the container was smaller as well - that may be the reason)

Errol · April 22, 2015

thanks NarnianGarden, I didn't know if I should use my wire cages which are 5 ft tall, of if I needed to use my 7ft stakes! thanks again
Errol

bower · April 22, 2015

In my greenhouse they certainly get to be 7 ft tall. They're bushy too.. very vigorous.

So much depends on the environment. Outdoor plants are never as big here - you might get best advice from someone who has grown Stupice outdoors in your own area.

The nice thing about Stupice, no matter how tall it will be covered with fruit from bottom to top... no wasted blossoms, even in the cool spring.

tnkrer · April 22, 2015

Grew Stupice last year in container (A huge container). The plant grew about 10 ft high. I let 4 stems grow. I got over 120 tomatoes from one plant. There were some double/tripple trusses. The fruits were small though. most between 1 - 2 oz.

hiker_ · April 23, 2015

I bought some Stupice plants last year and grew them in the ground in an area that gradually became part shade (nearby trees grew faster than expected). It was not good for most of my garden. My other tomatoes refused to ripen. But the Stupice still produced lots of very small (1-2 oz) ripe tomatoes.

Not sure how tall they measured, but my notes say: "They were supported with 5 foot tomato ladders but got so big that poles and twine had to be added for additional support."

(I threw the tomatoes in the freezer and later made them into tomato soup--their taste was really good for that. I'm trying to start some from seed this year.)

Salsacharley · April 23, 2015

I grew Stupice last year in a 5 gal bag and it got to about 7 ft with no pruning. I used trellis and weave to support it. Superb flavored small fruit. I'm growing again this year in the ground.

kelly · April 25, 2015

The only time I've ever had a Stupice stay below 4ft was when I had a sickly plant - mine definitely grow to a minimum of 5ft, and when I was in a longer season (only about 140 frost free days here) they grew a little past 6. Since you're definitely in a warmer area than me, I'd say err on the side of caution, and use the 7ft stakes

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ddsack · April 25, 2015

To all of you getting Stupice plants over 5 ft - is your Stupice still very early? Like Tania's description, mine usually tops out at around 4 ft, a little taller if in a shadier area. I have been using my own saved seeds for over 15 years. My Stupice has remained the earliest of my tomatoes, beating out similar early PL's like Moravsky Div and Bloody Butcher. I am wondering where and when this taller version of Stupice arose that so many seem to have now. If it's still as early, that's great!

**carolyn137** · April 25, 2015

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Originally Posted by ddsack

To all of you getting Stupice plants over 5 ft - is your Stupice still very early? Like Tania's description, mine usually tops out at around 4 ft, a little taller if in a shadier area. I have been using my own saved seeds for over 15 years. My Stupice has remained the earliest of my tomatoes, beating out similar early PL's like Moravsky Div and Bloody Butcher. I am wondering where and when this taller version of Stupice arose that so many seem to have now. If it's still as early, that's great!

Dee, maybe it depends on where some seed vendor or trader got their seeds from and see my post in the following link:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1358887/#b

Yes, it was Milan Sodomka who brought whichever version to the US, I've grown Stupike rani sent to me still in a commercial seed pack, and I know Vladimir here would know more about it, but when at the old GW we tried to find out who bred it but we failed. And now I'm remembering there was a long thread about Stupice in the Legacy Forum with lots of input, but I'm not in the mood to lose this poot and go fetch, but anyone interested can do so, it really was very interesting,

My point? If it was one of the two for glasshouse growing I assume it would be shorter than the two bred for field growing.

Carolyn

kelly · April 26, 2015

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Originally Posted by ddsack

To all of you getting Stupice plants over 5 ft - is your Stupice still very early?

Mine's definitely still early - my earliest was at 55 days last year, but they really started kicking off at about 65 days. I've been using my own seed for about 10 years.

ddsack · April 25, 2015

Thanks for posting that, Carolyn! I remember Vladimir had a thread a while ago about growing out and comparing the (four?) varieities of Stupice he had access to. I don't remember now if he found significant variations in height -- no time to search right now -- have to get back out to my greenhouse to pot up the rest of my very crowded seedlings!

bower · April 25, 2015

My Stupice is two days later than Moravsky Div. And much bushier. Both are super productive. Dee, I'd love to try a four-foot Stupice, if you'd like to swap and try my big one and Moravsky Div, let me know.

**carolyn137** · April 25, 2015

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Originally Posted by ddsack

Thanks for posting that, Carolyn! I remember Vladimir had a thread a while ago about growing out and comparing the (four?) varieities of Stupice he had access to. I don't remember now if he found significant variations in height -- no time to search right now -- have to get back out to my greenhouse to pot up the rest of my very crowded seedlings!

Yes, Vladimir did have a thread here where he was listing what he was growing and did discuss the four versions and I remember Tania thanking him for what he posted.

Maybe Vladimir will see this thread and help out.

I don't have time to go searching now and NOT b'c I have crowded seedlings, rather, I have a list of stuff I have to do today and am running behind already.

Next is lunch and trying to keep my wonderful old cat from crawling all over me if the little cooler has tuna salad sandwiches that Martha, who helps out with food prep, made for me.

Carolyn

Waiting · April 25, 2015

Vladimír posted a pic of his Stupice plants here -

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...stupice&page=9

I also found this -

http://www.pelicanplants.co.uk/tomatoes-a-z/stupice

April 22, 2015	#1
Errol Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: beech grove, tn Posts: 45	Stupice tomato this will be my first year growing Stupice tomatoes. I know it is a indeterminate , but I am confused as some says it grows to a height of 2ft-4ft, then I have heard that it will grow to height of 6ft-10ft !! so can anyone tell me how tall will these plants get? thanks Errol

April 25, 2015	#9
ddsack Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3 Posts: 3,231	To all of you getting Stupice plants over 5 ft - is your Stupice still very early? Like Tania's description, mine usually tops out at around 4 ft, a little taller if in a shadier area. I have been using my own saved seeds for over 15 years. My Stupice has remained the earliest of my tomatoes, beating out similar early PL's like Moravsky Div and Bloody Butcher. I am wondering where and when this taller version of Stupice arose that so many seem to have now. If it's still as early, that's great! __________________ Dee **************

April 25, 2015	#12
ddsack Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3 Posts: 3,231	Thanks for posting that, Carolyn! I remember Vladimir had a thread a while ago about growing out and comparing the (four?) varieities of Stupice he had access to. I don't remember now if he found significant variations in height -- no time to search right now -- have to get back out to my greenhouse to pot up the rest of my very crowded seedlings! __________________ Dee **************

April 22, 2015	#2
NarnianGarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Finland, EU Posts: 2,550	Last year, ours grew more to the height of 4ft, at a sunny porch. The yield was good. Compared to some other varieties that grew huge (Ambrosia... that was a giant!) it definitely stayed on the smaller side. (the container was smaller as well - that may be the reason)

April 22, 2015	#4
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	In my greenhouse they certainly get to be 7 ft tall. They're bushy too.. very vigorous. So much depends on the environment. Outdoor plants are never as big here - you might get best advice from someone who has grown Stupice outdoors in your own area. The nice thing about Stupice, no matter how tall it will be covered with fruit from bottom to top... no wasted blossoms, even in the cool spring.

April 22, 2015	#5
tnkrer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: MA 6a/b Posts: 352	Grew Stupice last year in container (A huge container). The plant grew about 10 ft high. I let 4 stems grow. I got over 120 tomatoes from one plant. There were some double/tripple trusses. The fruits were small though. most between 1 - 2 oz.

April 23, 2015	#6
hiker_ Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: RI Posts: 42	I bought some Stupice plants last year and grew them in the ground in an area that gradually became part shade (nearby trees grew faster than expected). It was not good for most of my garden. My other tomatoes refused to ripen. But the Stupice still produced lots of very small (1-2 oz) ripe tomatoes. Not sure how tall they measured, but my notes say: "They were supported with 5 foot tomato ladders but got so big that poles and twine had to be added for additional support." (I threw the tomatoes in the freezer and later made them into tomato soup--their taste was really good for that. I'm trying to start some from seed this year.)

April 23, 2015	#7
Salsacharley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,052	I grew Stupice last year in a 5 gal bag and it got to about 7 ft with no pruning. I used trellis and weave to support it. Superb flavored small fruit. I'm growing again this year in the ground.

April 25, 2015	#8
kelly Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada. Zone 3b. Posts: 13	The only time I've ever had a Stupice stay below 4ft was when I had a sickly plant - mine definitely grow to a minimum of 5ft, and when I was in a longer season (only about 140 frost free days here) they grew a little past 6. Since you're definitely in a warmer area than me, I'd say err on the side of caution, and use the 7ft stakes .

April 25, 2015	#15
Waiting Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Central California Posts: 87	Vladimír posted a pic of his Stupice plants here - http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...stupice&page=9 I also found this - http://www.pelicanplants.co.uk/tomatoes-a-z/stupice