Suggestions needed for a great red beefstake

pinklady5 · January 5, 2016

I always grow my favorite red, Cuostralee, but it's a late variety. Can someone suggest a great midseason red beefsteak for my NJ garden? No hybrids. I grow mostly blacks and pinks but my friends and family like to see some familiar red ones too. Thanks in advance.

KarenO · January 5, 2016

Omar's Lebanese and Neve's Azorean red are two that did well for me here in my Zone 3 garden with a greenhouse head start. Beautiful big meaty bright red and strong classic tomato flavour to my palate.
KarenO

**carolyn137** · January 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by KarenO

Omar's Lebanese and Neve's Azorean red are two that did well for me here in my Zone 3 garden with a greenhouse head start. Beautiful big meaty bright red and strong classic tomato flavour to my palate.
KarenO

But Karen. Omar's Lebanese is pink and Omar told me so,

and I've grown it many times.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Omar%27s_Lebanese

Carolyn

**carolyn137** · January 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by pinklady5

I always grow my favorite red, Cuostralee, but it's a late variety. Can someone suggest a great midseason red beefsteak for my NJ garden? No hybrids. I grow mostly blacks and pinks but my friends and family like to see some familiar red ones too. Thanks in advance.

I can think of at least 100 great red midseason beefsteaks,but you are asking for just ONE as you noted above.

So I'll name just ONE and not anyothers and that's Neves Azorean Red which grows well for almost everyone everyhwere'

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Neves_Azorean_Red

Tania and others call it a midseason variety and I would as well. But as always, for some folks in some years it may be late mid season or early late season depending on LOTS of variables that I just noted in the thread here about spitters.

Carolyn

sdambr · January 5, 2016

Neves Azorean red did well for me also. Huge plant, lots of tasty tomatoes. They were very late though. This may be due to my garden being exposed to herbicide drift. Most recovered, but it took time.

natural · January 5, 2016

Milka's Red Bulgarian is my favorite. It always produces well for me and is a little earlier than many others.

Bill

**carolyn137** · January 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by natural

Milka's Red Bulgarian is my favorite. It always produces well for me and is a little earlier than many others.

Bill

Bill, it's always been an excellent one for me and many others as well.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/M..._Red_Bulgarian

Dr Kroska got it from a patient of his who was from Bulgaria ,her name was Milka, so that's what we named it.

I said there were at least 100 or so great red beefsteaks Icould list and it's great seeing many of them turn up here as someones favorite for a red beef one.

Carolyn

pinklady5 · January 5, 2016

I can't believe I misspelled beefsteak in the heading!!! I have tried NAR in the past and it did so-so but I believe that was the year that we had torrential rains. I will try that again but also, if anyone has time, I would love to continue to here their suggestions.

ginger2778 · January 5, 2016

Sakharnyi Pudovichok( hope I spelled it right, please forgive if I did not) huge, productive as all get out, almost early, scrumptious!

**carolyn137** · January 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by ginger2778

Sakharnyi Pudovichok( hope I spelled it right, please forgive if I did not) huge, producive as all get out, almost early, scrumptious!

You spelled it correctly and yes I've grown it and I'm linking to it just b'c of all the interesting background Tania gives on this one.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Sakharnyi_Pudovichok

Carolyn

Fusion_power · January 5, 2016

Productive early mid-season red beefsteaks that are also adapted to your climate are not as numerous as you might think. Here are a few that I think are worth growing.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Box_Car_Willie
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Brandywine,_Red
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Druzba
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Nepal

I also agree with Neves Azorean Red aka Perry's Teasum which Carolyn might remember from many years ago.

Some other varieties to consider would be Wisconsin 55 and Picardy. These are not as large as the varieties above and they have a different set of size genes, but they are well worth considering for your area. Picardy in particular is a superb canning variety. If you are interested in growing pink varieties, Gregori's Altai and Eva Purple Ball are good choices.

**carolyn137** · January 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by Fusion_power

Productive early mid-season red beefsteaks that are also adapted to your climate are not as numerous as you might think. Here are a few that I think are worth growing.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Box_Car_Willie
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Brandywine,_Red
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Druzba
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Nepal

I also agree with Neves Azorean Red aka Perry's Teasum which Carolyn might remember from many years ago.

Some other varieties to consider would be Wisconsin 55 and Picardy. These are not as large as the varieties above and they have a different set of size genes, but they are well worth considering for your area. Picardy in particular is a superb canning variety. If you are interested in growing pink varieties, Gregori's Altai and Eva Purple Ball are good choices.

Of course I remember that NAR situation from so many years ago.

it was at Garden Web and I kept saying that I had seeds for what Chuck Perry a local person who got them from the the then owner of the Neptune fertilizer site, and the D deer kept eating the fruits, so it was Fusion who called it Perry's Teasum.

WhenI did get enough seeds I started a thread giving all the background I knew about it and asked others to help me name it b'c that's not always easy to do and many of them had never had to do that.

The winning name was Neves Azorean Red, there were 22 folks who posted in that thread and as thanks I sent seeds tor all of them, perhaps one opted out.

Carolyn

Tormato · January 5, 2016

In my garden, red beefsteaks are almost always duds. So, I can recommend just the two that are outstanding...

Neves Azorean Red
Shuntukski Velican

BigVanVader · January 5, 2016

Some nice pics of it here http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=37629

Cole_Robbie · January 5, 2016

If you want to avoid the ugly factor that is so common in many great varieties, Cosmonaut Volkov is my main market variety, because the fruit are very attractive. Other than what I think is better taste, CV is indistinguishable to me from Big Beef F1. Yield is very similar.

If you don't mind a heart, George Detsikas Italian Red is a variety that was recently shared here on tville. I liked it a lot, and it got many other good reviews. Flavor and yield are very good. Here is a thread about it: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=34178

January 5, 2016	#1
pinklady5 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central NJ Posts: 234	Suggestions needed for a great red beefstake I always grow my favorite red, Cuostralee, but it's a late variety. Can someone suggest a great midseason red beefsteak for my NJ garden? No hybrids. I grow mostly blacks and pinks but my friends and family like to see some familiar red ones too. Thanks in advance.

January 5, 2016	#5
sdambr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 421	Neves Azorean red did well for me also. Huge plant, lots of tasty tomatoes. They were very late though. This may be due to my garden being exposed to herbicide drift. Most recovered, but it took time. __________________ Sue "There are only two ways to live your life: as though nothing is a miracle, or as though everything is a miracle." Albert Einstein

January 5, 2016	#2
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	Omar's Lebanese and Neve's Azorean red are two that did well for me here in my Zone 3 garden with a greenhouse head start. Beautiful big meaty bright red and strong classic tomato flavour to my palate. KarenO

January 5, 2016	#6
natural Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North GA Posts: 530	Milka's Red Bulgarian is my favorite. It always produces well for me and is a little earlier than many others. Bill

January 5, 2016	#9
ginger2778 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10 Posts: 9,283	Sakharnyi Pudovichok( hope I spelled it right, please forgive if I did not) huge, productive as all get out, almost early, scrumptious!

January 5, 2016	#11
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	Productive early mid-season red beefsteaks that are also adapted to your climate are not as numerous as you might think. Here are a few that I think are worth growing. http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Box_Car_Willie http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Brandywine,_Red http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Druzba http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Nepal I also agree with Neves Azorean Red aka Perry's Teasum which Carolyn might remember from many years ago. Some other varieties to consider would be Wisconsin 55 and Picardy. These are not as large as the varieties above and they have a different set of size genes, but they are well worth considering for your area. Picardy in particular is a superb canning variety. If you are interested in growing pink varieties, Gregori's Altai and Eva Purple Ball are good choices.

January 5, 2016	#13
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	In my garden, red beefsteaks are almost always duds. So, I can recommend just the two that are outstanding... Neves Azorean Red Shuntukski Velican

January 5, 2016	#14
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	Some nice pics of it here http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=37629

January 5, 2016	#15
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	If you want to avoid the ugly factor that is so common in many great varieties, Cosmonaut Volkov is my main market variety, because the fruit are very attractive. Other than what I think is better taste, CV is indistinguishable to me from Big Beef F1. Yield is very similar. If you don't mind a heart, George Detsikas Italian Red is a variety that was recently shared here on tville. I liked it a lot, and it got many other good reviews. Flavor and yield are very good. Here is a thread about it: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=34178