My list..

[gssgarden]

30 plants in raised beds and 2 Dwarves.

Gonna make a LOT of sauce this year!!

Reds

Shannon's - 4
Wes
Giant Belgium
Dester
Arkansas Traveler
George Detsikas Italian Red
Goliath
Early Goliath
Big Beef
Cuostralee
Box Car Willie

Cherries

Mexico Midget

Greens

My Mystery Green - I call it Gregory's Green for now
Green Giant
Aunt Ruby's German Green
Grub's Mystery Green

Orange

KBX
Orange Minsk
Orange Jazz
Chef's Choice Orange

Pineapple Pig
Lucky Cross

Blacks

Cherokee Purple - of course!
Carbon
Cherokee Carbon
Indian Stripe
Pink Berkley Tie Dye
Large Barred Boar


Gonna be busy!


Greg

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by gssgarden

30 plants in raised beds and 2 Dwarves.

Gonna make a LOT of sauce this year!!

Reds

Shannon's - 4
Wes
Giant Belgium
Dester
Arkansas Traveler
George Detsikas Italian Red
Goliath
Early Goliath
Big Beef
Cuostralee
Box Car Willie

Cherries

Mexico Midget

Greens

My Mystery Green - I call it Gregory's Green for now
Green Giant
Aunt Ruby's German Green
Grub's Mystery Green

Orange

KBX
Orange Minsk
Orange Jazz
Chef's Choice Orange

Pineapple Pig
Lucky Cross

Blacks

Cherokee Purple - of course!
Carbon
Cherokee Carbon
Indian Stripe
Pink Berkley Tie Dye
Large Barred Boar


Gonna be busy!


Greg

Good looking list but you might want to consider creating a Pink list for Dester and Arkansas Traveler since you have them under the Reds right now.

Carolyn

[Dark Rumor]

How many square feet do you have for the 30 plants?

My list for my two raised beds:
Abe Lincoln Beefsteak Big Red Box Car Willie Bush Beefsteak Carmello Dona Gregori's Altai Mexico Mortgage Lifter Container: Beaverlodge Slicer Early Wonder

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by Dark Rumor

How many square feet do you have for the 30 plants?

My list for my two raised beds:
Abe Lincoln Beefsteak Big Red Box Car Willie Bush Beefsteak Carmello Dona Gregori's Altai Mexico Mortgage Lifter Container: Beaverlodge Slicer Early Wonder

What is the shape of your beds ?

To speak from my own experience , I give roughly 3 sq-ft for each plant. that is roughly 20" by 20".
If I had more space I would've upped it to 4 sq-ft per plant.

So to answer your question you need 90 to 100 sq-ft space.

Gardeneer

[sjamesNorway]

gssgarden, I see that you're planning on growing both Big Beef and Goliath. I'm planning on growing one or the other, as I only have room for one of them. Have you grown them before, and if so, could you compare them?

Steve

[Dark Rumor]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

What is the shape of your beds ?

To speak from my own experience , I give roughly 3 sq-ft for each plant. that is roughly 20" by 20".
If I had more space I would've upped it to 4 sq-ft per plant.

So to answer your question you need 90 to 100 sq-ft space.

Gardeneer

One bed is 3'x5' - 15 sq ft - I was planning on 5 to 6 plants
the second bed is 8'x7' - 56 sq ft - I was planning on 16 to 20 plants
I will probably keep it to the 3 square feet per plant

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by Dark Rumor

One bed is 3'x5' - 15 sq ft - I was planning on 5 to 6 plants
the second bed is 8'x7' - 56 sq ft - I was planning on 16 to 20 plants
I will probably keep it to the 3 square feet per plant

You are doing it right I think.

===== 5 plants in 15 sq-ft corresponds to 3 sq-ft per plant ( as I said )
===== in 56 sq-ft 18 plants will also be 3 sq-ft per plant.

So the total will be roughly 23 plants.
What I have suggested is what I have been doing for the past 3 seasons myself. So it is not something theoretical. For example in a 2.5ft by 5ft I will plant 4. I have done 5 too. That would be 2.5sq-ft per plant.

Gardeneer

[Dark Rumor]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

You are doing it right I think.

===== 5 plants in 15 sq-ft corresponds to 3 sq-ft per plant ( as I said )
===== in 56 sq-ft 18 plants will also be 3 sq-ft per plant.

So the total will be roughly 23 plants.
What I have suggested is what I have been doing for the past 3 seasons myself. So it is not something theoretical. For example in a 2.5ft by 5ft I will plant 4. I have done 5 too. That would be 2.5sq-ft per plant.

Gardeneer

Do you remove the suckers?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Dark Rumor

One bed is 3'x5' - 15 sq ft - I was planning on 5 to 6 plants
the second bed is 8'x7' - 56 sq ft - I was planning on 16 to 20 plants
I will probably keep it to the 3 square feet per plant

My question is......how are you going to grow them in your raised beds, by staking, by caging, etc, b/c that does make a large difference in how many plants and how far apart,

With the 8 X 7' garden if you don't leave a central pathway running down the middle I think it's going to very difficult for you to have to get inside that bed to fertilize ,water, and to prune if needed, especially if staking plants.

Carolyn

[Dark Rumor]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

My question is......how are you going to grow them in your raised beds, by staking, by caging, etc, b/c that does make a large difference in how many plants and how far apart,

With the 8 X 7' garden if you don't leave a central pathway running down the middle I think it's going to very difficult for you to have to get inside that bed to fertilize ,water, and to prune if needed, especially if staking plants.

Carolyn

I use cages, I am debating on how many suckers I should leave, if any?
Any thoughts?

As far as watering I use a soaker hose. I can generally work my way around the plants to do the pruning and fertilizing.

[kath]

Nice list! Do you combine all those varieties to make your sauce? Asking because when I did that one year the color was rather muddy.

kath

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by kath

Nice list! Do you combine all those varieties to make your sauce? Asking because when I did that one year the color was rather muddy.

kath

I had to laugh about that Kath since whenI was still using paste tomatoes for sauce before I switched to heart varieties and meaty beefsteaks I sure came up with some weird colors since all paste tomatoes are not red.

I wondered from time to time that if one used just GWripe varieties and some yellow varieties if sauce would turn out to be blue, ahem, as happens with watercolors.

Carolyn

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I had to laugh about that Kath since whenI was still using paste tomatoes for sauce before I switched to heart varieties and meaty beefsteaks I sure came up with some weird colors since all paste tomatoes are not red.

I wondered from time to time that if one used just GWripe varieties and some yellow varieties if sauce would turn out to be blue, ahem, as happens with watercolors.

Carolyn

I'm sorry Carolyn, Blue Yellow and Red are the primary colors all other colors come from a mixture of these.

All you would get from green and yellow is light green.

Yellow and blue make green.
Worth

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Worth1

I'm sorry Carolyn, Blue Yellow and Red are the primary colors all other colors come from a mixture of these.

All you would get from green and yellow is light green.

Yellow and blue make green.
Worth

Oh my, I made a mistake, first one in 20 years and you are so right Worth.And I ask when was the last time that YOU made a mistake, talking gardening now, not other mistakes/

Yellows I've got plenty of but forget it when it comes to any antho ones, with perhaps one exception.

Carolyn

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Oh my, I made a mistake, first one in 20 years and you are so right Worth.And I ask when was the last time that YOU made a mistake, talking gardening now, not other mistakes/

Yellows I've got plenty of but forget it when it comes to any antho ones, with perhaps one exception.

Carolyn

I never make mistakes gardening, I like to call them discoveries.

I never will forget the time my mother let me help her make my own green three layer Birthday cake.

Worth