Blue X Late Blight anyone know anything?

tash11 · March 9, 2016

I received some seeds in a group trade (not MMMM) with the label "Blue X Late Blight". I asked the sender and he doesn't remember where he got them or what F generation they might be.

Anyone know anything about these? They sound really interesting. I think I am going to have to find a spot for them...

Starlight · March 9, 2016

From what I found on the internet, it seems to be a cross F2, from 2011 by Tom Wagner. I tried to pull up the information from google, but it gave me a bunch of computer language that I had no idea what it was. I tried going to what was supposed to have been his site and my security notice came up that site was not secure and other stuff and I should back out, which I did.

What was said was this from the google page,

"Tom wanted visitors to be able to see the full list of tomatoes that are TW BLUE, (Blue x Late Blight) F2, some unknown TW #2

Guess the TW stands for Tom Wagner.

Back in 2009, Tom was working with OSU BLUE, P20, which he called the same thing. He said that he extracted some think it was backcross of a late blight resistance tomato he had worked with from 2004. He crossed that late blight variety to some of his OSU x ??? seedlings.

Some of his lines he was crossing with WV700, West Virginia 700, which was supposed to have late blight genes.

Looks like he did alot of crosses back then. I say grow it out and see what you get. Hope you like surprises. Hopefully it will be something good. : )

tash11 · March 9, 2016

wow, your google-fu must be better then mine. I couldn't find anything. Thanks.

I think I found the page you were talking about (it didn't' give me any issues) and the blue X late blight is only mentioned in the comments.

But right under that on my newest google results has a FB link that is not in English, but it translates to:
(Blue X Late Blight) F3 Variable, about 150 g, the parents are blue (Purple top, against sunburn) and late blight (high resistance against equivalent)

Which doesn't' really tell me anything I didn't know other then F3 (of course mine might not be F3).

Under that there is a French (maybe?) page that just has blue X late blight and 2015. Nothing else.

Guess I will just have to grow it and see. But I should probably grow more then one to see if there is any variation....

Starlight · March 9, 2016

I would. I'd grow several. You might just have a lot of variation. I would expect it after what I read and especially if it has OSU/P20 in the cross.

You'll have to show some pics of what you get. it will be interesting to see what goody you get. : )

tash11 · March 9, 2016

Yeah, I will post pics of course.

tash11 · August 1, 2016

OK. I had a lot of problems this year. Anyway the blue x stayed in pots so I can't speak for growth habit in ground or even if they were full sized fruit. One plant that got lost was my comp shadow boxing. But here are some pics as promised.

Pictured with Blush.

The two redder ones at 6 and 9 are from the same plant. The others are from other plants. I cut one of the redder ones because my daughter really wanted to try it. It had 11 seeds and a brix just under 5. My daughter said it was delicious. The prettiest one (at 3) is also the largest and pointiest.

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Starlight · August 2, 2016

Well that turned out really good for you for not knowing what to expect. The fact that your daughter liked it is an extra bonus. : )

How did the plant itself do? Any foliage problems? Wondering since it had late blight prevention as the cross.

Very nice looking for sure. : ) A good surprise for you.

tash11 · August 2, 2016

I don't want to comment on the plant itself. Between life and the racoon this was one of the plants that didn't get into the garden. I tried to water as much as possible but it's been hot and dry and the plants suffered

The plants that made it into the ground are doing beautifully. Most were dwarf project (I figured they would be small enough to squeeze in here and there).

Starlight · August 3, 2016

Been there. Many times have had seedlings that didn't get to the proper planting stage. I sure would save you some seeds and plant them out for next year and give it a spot or a bigger container.

tash11 · August 3, 2016

Oh yes, I am saving every seed I get from them. My daughter was only allowed to taste that one after I scooped out the gel

March 9, 2016	#1
tash11 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 156	Blue X Late Blight anyone know anything? I received some seeds in a group trade (not MMMM) with the label "Blue X Late Blight". I asked the sender and he doesn't remember where he got them or what F generation they might be. Anyone know anything about these? They sound really interesting. I think I am going to have to find a spot for them...

August 1, 2016	#6
tash11 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 156	OK. I had a lot of problems this year. Anyway the blue x stayed in pots so I can't speak for growth habit in ground or even if they were full sized fruit. One plant that got lost was my comp shadow boxing. But here are some pics as promised. Pictured with Blush. The two redder ones at 6 and 9 are from the same plant. The others are from other plants. I cut one of the redder ones because my daughter really wanted to try it. It had 11 seeds and a brix just under 5. My daughter said it was delicious. The prettiest one (at 3) is also the largest and pointiest. Save Last edited by tash11; August 1, 2016 at 12:20 PM.

March 9, 2016	#2
Starlight Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: AL Posts: 1,993	From what I found on the internet, it seems to be a cross F2, from 2011 by Tom Wagner. I tried to pull up the information from google, but it gave me a bunch of computer language that I had no idea what it was. I tried going to what was supposed to have been his site and my security notice came up that site was not secure and other stuff and I should back out, which I did. What was said was this from the google page, "Tom wanted visitors to be able to see the full list of tomatoes that are TW BLUE, (Blue x Late Blight) F2, some unknown TW #2 Guess the TW stands for Tom Wagner. Back in 2009, Tom was working with OSU BLUE, P20, which he called the same thing. He said that he extracted some think it was backcross of a late blight resistance tomato he had worked with from 2004. He crossed that late blight variety to some of his OSU x ??? seedlings. Some of his lines he was crossing with WV700, West Virginia 700, which was supposed to have late blight genes. Looks like he did alot of crosses back then. I say grow it out and see what you get. Hope you like surprises. Hopefully it will be something good. : )

August 2, 2016	#7
Starlight Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: AL Posts: 1,993	Well that turned out really good for you for not knowing what to expect. The fact that your daughter liked it is an extra bonus. : ) How did the plant itself do? Any foliage problems? Wondering since it had late blight prevention as the cross. Very nice looking for sure. : ) A good surprise for you.

August 3, 2016	#9
Starlight Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: AL Posts: 1,993	Been there. Many times have had seedlings that didn't get to the proper planting stage. I sure would save you some seeds and plant them out for next year and give it a spot or a bigger container.