Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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April 29, 2016 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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My 2016 Grow list and a favor
I'm growing a few of these to replenish older seed stock. I'd appreciate it if someone could double check my memory and group these into 3 height categories: medium, tall, and very tall I have 16 cages for the very tallest plants, excluding cherries. Cherries will get their own area in a separate bed. Plant out looks good for next week, but its really wet and cold this weekend.
2016 Tomato List 1884 Beefmaster * Commercial Big Beef * Commercial Bear Claw Bear Creek Beduin Black Krim Black & Red Boar Chapman Coir De Bue Coules De Tauren Debarao Doniski Earl's Faux Goose Creek German Johnson GGWT Gold Medal Indian Stripe Holy Land Jet Star * Commercial Jersey Devil KBX Kelloggs Breakfast Livingston Globe Ludimella Lithium Sunset Magnif Pointe Magnif Olympia Mortgage Lifter Murry Smith Neves Orange Minsk Orange Strawberry Orange Russian 117 Padano Rebel Yell Rose de Bernie Sungold Spikes BB Thessalonki Wes Last edited by greenthumbomaha; April 29, 2016 at 12:24 AM. Reason: added Earl's Faux |
April 29, 2016 | #2 |
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I wish I could help indicate three different heights,but I can't b/c there are so many variables that influence that, so different folks are going to have different ideas,I think,about heights for many and I'm one who sprawled most of my tomatoes,so haven't the faintest idea of heights.
But I hope it won't annoy you too much if I make some comments about your spellings of a few varieties. Coir is not the word to use, it means something else,it should be Cuore (or Cuor) de Bue (or Bui)depending on on the origin of that variety Couilles de Taureau is the correct spelling Neves is Neves Azorean Red, although I do think that most would understand the abbreviation of NAR Rose de Bernie,should be Rose de Berne,now with Bernie, we don't want to get political here,do we. Ludmilla is a woman from Kazachstan who moved to Germany and brought three heirloom varieties with her, and they all have Ludmilla as part of the name but all three are different,so no one variety just named Ludmilla. http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...27s_Pink_Heart I got all three from Reinhard grew all three,and the one I think is best is Ludmilla's Red Plum,not small at all and wonderfully delicious. And offered all three in prior seed offers here at Tville. But if Karen from Canada is reading this she would say that the pink Heart is the best for her own reasons. I hope that helps, Carolyn
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April 29, 2016 | #3 |
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Jet Star is the only one I see that doesn't get huge.
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April 29, 2016 | #4 |
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sungold is always crazy tall for me. Mortgage lifter tall as well and dense leafing, always have to prune for airflow.
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August 6, 2016 | #5 | |
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Yes indeed I do like the Ludmilla's pink heart best. It's a great early large punk heart in a compact slightly wispy plant. She is the "mother" of some of my babies. KarenO
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Yes indeed I do like the Ludmilla's pink heart best. It's a great early large pink heart in a compact slightly wispy plant. She is the "mother" of some of my babies. KarenO
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April 29, 2016 | #7 |
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Rebel Yell didn't get more than 6" tall me for.
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April 29, 2016 | #8 |
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What did you do, step on it?
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April 29, 2016 | #9 |
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April 29, 2016 | #10 |
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There is also a Russian CV called Lyudmilla (or Ludmilla).
Mid-early, indet. RL plant with red, globe 100-150 g meaty, sweet fruit. Plant is 1-1.5m high. 5-7 fruit in a truss.
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April 29, 2016 | #11 |
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I think Big Beef is medium tall.
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May 1, 2016 | #12 |
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It's still wet and I have every transplant inside my dining area now. . They are too tall for lights. When the ground dries, I'll go to the side of the house and see how the cold varieties are faring in this extended cold/wet period after weeks in the 70's.
Thank you for the spelling corrections and the clarifications, Carolyn. My first selection of seeds was based purely on seed age and with my old eyes it's not always easy to see the tiniest print. So these names are from my original tags. Ludmilla will show herself soon. Same with Cuor de Bu?. We shall see what grows... In every case I was very pleased with the selections after researching my treasures. Like winning the tomato lottery. Here are a few more that I overlooked in my original list : Summer cider Dester Peiping Cheich Box Car Willie The tallest among the seedlings is Rose de Bernie - Lisa My dwarf project variety is Priddy, which has Mortgage Lifter as a parent. I have yet to see excess foliage - interesting. Last edited by greenthumbomaha; May 1, 2016 at 11:49 AM. Reason: added priddy info |
May 1, 2016 | #13 |
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Lisa,
Of those on your list that I grew last year, both Wes and Orange Russian #117 both grew at least 6' tall and then started to come out of the cages. Big Beef Hybrid seemed to be less vigorous, but as Carolyn may have mentioned, a lot depends on how they are grown regarding spacing, fertilization, amount of sunlight and other variables. George
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May 1, 2016 | #14 |
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If you get mostly mid day sun, the height difference should not be a problem, adding to that if there are generously spaced.
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May 1, 2016 | #15 |
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Peiping Chieh (pronounced BAY-ping, translated: Beijing Tomato) is a large indeterminate. I had trouble with catfacing. But when I quit watering the plants in the high tunnel and left them for dead for a month, the Peiping Chieh was still alive, and the fruit I picked were just amazing in flavor. It really benefits from not being over-watered, which I think is what is happened in the high tunnel environment.
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