What varieties should be more well-known?

[M.SeanF.]

I'm pretty new to tomatoville and am enjoying it alot. There are so many varieties being discussed that are new to me. I was wondering what lesser known varieties you think should be better known. I'm crazy about Green Copia and Japanese Black Trifele, but don't see them mentioned here very much. What obscure tomatoes do you love?

[Gardeneer]

Shean, Japanese Black Trifele, is well know but not as popular here. I grew it in 2o14, 15.
It is a very tasty dark/brown variety. But it was not as productive as I would've liked. I might go back to it again.

I know one tomato that I think deserves a better recognition : ANANAS NOIRE.

It is a large multi-color variety with excellent taste.

Gardeneer

[M.SeanF.]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Shean, Japanese Black Trifele, is well know but not as popular here. I grew it in 2o14, 15.
It is a very tasty dark/brown variety. But it was not as productive as I would've liked. I might go back to it again.

I know one tomato that I think deserves a better recognition : ANANAS NOIRE.

It is a large multi-color variety with excellent taste.

Gardeneer

I agree. I tried Ananas Noir last year and it was pretty special

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by M.SeanF.

I'm pretty new to tomatoville and am enjoying it alot. There are so many varieties being discussed that are new to me. I was wondering what lesser known varieties you think should be better known. I'm crazy about Green Copia and Japanese Black Trifele, but don't see them mentioned here very much. What obscure tomatoes do you love?

Yes,there are many you don 't see discussed here that will be new to you,but the larger question is if there are seed sources for them, and I don't mean here at Tville.

My mission,which I've discussed here before is to send seeds for trial to not just Tania,but also to other seed companies, I've dealt with before,

And some of them are

Daniel Burson
Not Purple Strawberry
Eva Ste. Wendell
Rosedale
Little Dixie

And many more.

Gardeer,. go to Tania's site and you'll seet that there are several sources for the various colored Trifle ones as well as Anannas Noir, but as I said above there are many that have no vendor sites for them,new ones, and yes,it is my mission to get them out there and already have sent same to at least one vendor since the newest ones came too late for me to send them to other vendors.

Carolyn

[M.SeanF.]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Yes,there are many you don 't see discussed here that will be new to you,but the larger question is if there are seed sources for them, and I don't mean here at Tville.

My mission,which I've discussed here before is to send seeds for trial to not just Tania,but also to other seed companies, I've dealt with before,

And some of them are

Daniel Burson
Not Purple Strawberry
Eva Ste. Wendell
Rosedale
Little Dixie

And many more.

Gardeer,. go to Tania's site and you'll seet that there are several sources for the various colored Trifle ones as well as Anannas Noir, but as I said above there are many that have no vendor sites for them,new ones, and yes,it is my mission to get them out there and already have sent same to at least one vendor since the newest ones came too late for me to send them to other vendors.

Carolyn

Thank you for the tip on the other Russian Trifele varieties, I used Tania's site to track them down at Amishland seeds and have now ordered all three for next year.

[Andrey_BY]

It's better to avoid Amishland, because this lady is fond of renaming of original variety names and like to write extraordinary blurbs

As for my recommendations there at least several thousand of tomato varieties from our region (the former Soviet Union which has been officially called CIS from 1992). I need to know what you like and your growing conditions.

And probably you will be upset to know that Orange Russian 117 is not pure Russian variety. It is from Jeff Dawson's (Ca, USA) selection (a cross of Russian 117 and Georgia Streak). And yes, Russian 117 is a family heirloom of Russian origin
Let's wait some hours and Carolyn will wake and tell you the whole story behind this variety here. I know it for sure

Originally Posted by M.SeanF.

Thank you for the tip on the other Russian Trifele varieties, I used Tania's site to track them down at Amishland seeds and have now ordered all three for next year.

[M.SeanF.]

Originally Posted by Andrey_BY

It's better to avoid Amishland, because this lady is fond of renaming of original variety names and like to write extraordinary blurbs

Live and Learn. I already placed my order so I will just hope for the best.

[Andrey_BY]

Every second variety in Amishland catalog is extremely "rare" or pretend "they are the only USA source for it" and almost all variety names are misspelled or have got an extra words to make you think they are unique, but they are quite known and popular under they original names...

Originally Posted by M.SeanF.

Live and Learn. I already placed my order so I will just hope for the best.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Andrey_BY

It's better to avoid Amishland, because this lady is fond of renaming of original variety names and like to write extraordinary blurbs

As for my recommendations there at least several thousand of tomato varieties from our region (the former Soviet Union which has been officially called CIS from 1992). I need to know what you like and your growing conditions.

And probably you will be upset to know that Orange Russian 117 is not pure Russian variety. It is from Jeff Dawson's (Ca, USA) selection (a cross of Russian 117 and Georgia Streak). And yes, Russian 117 is a family heirloom of Russian origin
Let's wait some hours and Carolyn will wake and tell you the whole story behind this variety here. I know it for sure

yes, Carolynnis awake now, but herenonly briefly, so Russian 117 willbjust have to wait.

Carolyn, backbto bed very soon

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

yes, Carolynnis awake now, but herenonly briefly, so Russian 117 willbjust have to wait.

Carolyn, backbto bed very soon

About Russian #117

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Russian_117

You can see that I got my seeds for it from Marie,from Hawaii, b/c at the time SSE was giving seeds to others to list and distribute via the SSE Yearbook.

There's more to the history b/c I think it came from Russia to Alaska first,but I'd have to confirm that unless someone else here can do that.

Stupid Carolyn just rememered she featured it in her Tomato heirloom book,took a look,praised it very highly but no mention of Russia to Alaska but noted that it was SSE who gave it the accession # Russian #117.

Carolyn

[JosephineRose]

Originally Posted by Andrey_BY

It's better to avoid Amishland, because this lady is fond of renaming of original variety names and like to write extraordinary blurbs

I ordered there too. How can we know what the original names are?

[Lindalana]

Originally Posted by JosephineRose

I ordered there too. How can we know what the original names are?

most times those are original names, just sometimes they are marketed with superstories...

[korney19]

Originally Posted by M.SeanF.

Thank you for the tip on the other Russian Trifele varieties, I used Tania's site to track them down at Amishland seeds and have now ordered all three for next year.

Oh no!!!!!!!!

[ilex]

Not a variety but a whole family. ... de colgar tomatoes

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ilex

Not a variety but a whole family. ... de colgar tomatoes

Absolutely, and to date my fave is the Ribera one, but right now I can't find the picture of it.

But see a huge multiflora with beefsteak fruits being held by an elderly man, and Ilex did send me that one and I have several folks growing it out for seed production this summer,since I don't want to lose it.

Fact is Ilex also has heard of someone who has a similar de colgar with HEART shaped fruits, and when he manages to get that one,well,here I am Ilex.

Actually Ilex sent me about 20 varieties and all are out for seed production.

Due to EU regulations he can't sell seeds from Spain, so he became an SSE listed member where he offers, I think something like 83 varieties.

Sadly, EU regs are not the same in every EU country.

There are quite a few non US persons who have become listed SSE members in order to distribute their seeds,but Andrey and Tania and some others have been doing that for many years as well and I'm not referring to other Canadian SSE listed members either.


Carolyn