Saving seeds - techniques

dmforcier · July 25, 2016

Yes, I'm aware that fermentation is the ubiquitous practice. But I ran across an article last year that uses kitchen cleanser, like Comet, to strip the goop off the seeds.

http://www.wintersown.org/wseo1/Save..._Tutorial.html

Unfortunately, the link is dead. Web site is still there, but no documents.

Does anyone use this method? Details?

AlittleSalt · July 25, 2016

I use the fermentation method. I don't want to take a chance on spreading diseases.

Cole_Robbie · July 25, 2016

I use Oxy Clean. Here's the link to the method: http://settfest.feldoncentral.com/2009/01/saving-seeds/

heirloomtomaguy · July 25, 2016

I use a combo of hydrogen peroxide and baking soda works great in under an hour. Or i do like Container Ted and ferment in closed canning jars. Takes the stank and fruit fly's right out of the equation.

Hntrss · August 8, 2016

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Originally Posted by heirloomtomaguy

I use a combo of hydrogen peroxide and baking soda works great in under an hour. Or i do like Container Ted and ferment in closed canning jars. Takes the stank and fruit fly's right out of the equation.

Thank you , I have been using your method with 100% germination and its is fast and easy. An hour or two and they are ready to dry!!

clkingtx · August 9, 2016

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Originally Posted by heirloomtomaguy

I use a combo of hydrogen peroxide and baking soda works great in under an hour. Or i do like Container Ted and ferment in closed canning jars. Takes the stank and fruit fly's right out of the equation.

I just used your method to clean my seeds, and WOW! it works great!

heirloomtomaguy · August 9, 2016

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Originally Posted by clkingtx

I just used your method to clean my seeds, and WOW! it works great!

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Originally Posted by Hntrss

Thank you , I have been using your method with 100% germination and its is fast and easy. An hour or two and they are ready to dry!!

Glad to see its working for yall so well.

**carolyn137** · August 10, 2016

Well, you know I'm slow, so they have plenty of time to use everything.

... said Ilex

Yes,slow about some things, and I had to laugh about that,

and I'll be sending you an em about that, but ASAP when it comes to helping folks here at Tville by answering questions and clarifying issues with Spanish tomatoes.

Carolyn

dmforcier · July 25, 2016

Oxi-Clean, eh? I actually have some of that.

heirloomtomaguy, what's the recipe?

sjamesNorway · July 25, 2016

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Originally Posted by dmforcier

Oxi-Clean, eh? I actually have some of that.

heirloomtomaguy, what's the recipe?

The Oxy Clean method is in Cole Robbie's link in post 3. Here is Ted Maiden's fermentation technique from Tatiana's Tomatobase: http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/A...g_Fermentation It worked well for me.

Steve

bower · July 26, 2016

HTG, could you remind me of the recipe for the peroxide/soda treatment?

I have a fruit I'm thinking to start seeds right away, but I figure I need to strip the gel off for them to germinate quicker.

It's a cherry size fruit, if that makes any difference to the amounts.

Cole_Robbie · July 26, 2016

The Oxy Clean recipe is fairly forgiving. I don't even measure the powder; I just use a heaping kitchen spoon. I think the 1 tbsp/1 cup water & juice is about the maximum powder amount that can be dissolved in that much liquid.

dmforcier · July 26, 2016

Thanks. Your recipe was good. I was asking HTG about his.

heirloomtomaguy · July 26, 2016

Depending on the amount of seeds you are femrmenting the recipe will vary but for a small amount i use a a teaspoon of water, a cap full of hydrogen peroxide and a teaspoon of baking soda. I mix it in with the seed pulp and instantly it goes to work. If there is not enough juice the concoction with froth and some of the seeds will be out of the mix. Its only ever happened to me twice. Most the time i just eyeball my mix and add more as needed. Should be good and clean in an hour.

Aerial · July 29, 2016

I just tried this, works EXCEPTIONALLY!

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Originally Posted by heirloomtomaguy

Depending on the amount of seeds you are femrmenting the recipe will vary but for a small amount i use a a teaspoon of water, a cap full of hydrogen peroxide and a teaspoon of baking soda. I mix it in with the seed pulp and instantly it goes to work. If there is not enough juice the concoction with froth and some of the seeds will be out of the mix. Its only ever happened to me twice. Most the time i just eyeball my mix and add more as needed. Should be good and clean in an hour.

July 25, 2016	#1
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	Saving seeds - techniques Yes, I'm aware that fermentation is the ubiquitous practice. But I ran across an article last year that uses kitchen cleanser, like Comet, to strip the goop off the seeds. http://www.wintersown.org/wseo1/Save..._Tutorial.html Unfortunately, the link is dead. Web site is still there, but no documents. Does anyone use this method? Details? __________________ Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers

July 25, 2016	#4
heirloomtomaguy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: glendora ca Posts: 2,560	I use a combo of hydrogen peroxide and baking soda works great in under an hour. Or i do like Container Ted and ferment in closed canning jars. Takes the stank and fruit fly's right out of the equation. __________________ “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."

August 10, 2016	#8
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Well, you know I'm slow, so they have plenty of time to use everything. ... said Ilex Yes,slow about some things, and I had to laugh about that, and I'll be sending you an em about that, but ASAP when it comes to helping folks here at Tville by answering questions and clarifying issues with Spanish tomatoes. Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

July 25, 2016	#9
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	Oxi-Clean, eh? I actually have some of that. heirloomtomaguy, what's the recipe? __________________ Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers

July 26, 2016	#13
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	Thanks. Your recipe was good. I was asking HTG about his. __________________ Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers

July 25, 2016	#2
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	I use the fermentation method. I don't want to take a chance on spreading diseases.

July 25, 2016	#3
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I use Oxy Clean. Here's the link to the method: http://settfest.feldoncentral.com/2009/01/saving-seeds/

July 26, 2016	#11
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	HTG, could you remind me of the recipe for the peroxide/soda treatment? I have a fruit I'm thinking to start seeds right away, but I figure I need to strip the gel off for them to germinate quicker. It's a cherry size fruit, if that makes any difference to the amounts.