July 2016 Hottest on Record.

[kurt]

From NASA.Even our Trinadadian Scorpians,Morugas super hots will not set peppers.Buds and flowers galore.Second summer set of Mangoes not filling out.What next?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...pm_local_pop_b

[dmforcier]

One might take that article seriously if the author had any idea what a "long term average" actually is. 30 years? We're taking about geophysical phenomenon that naturally varies over tens of thousands of years.


Then there was the article a few weeks ago about how "rising sea levels from global warming" are drowning towns in the southernmost Mississippi delta. In fact, the delta naturally subsides, and depends on silt deposited from river floods to stay above sea level. Channelizing the river has prevented that silt deposition for over 100 years. The sea isn't rising, the land is sinking.

But I suppose that if you have something to sell, you're going to slant every story to help you sell it.

[Fred Hempel]

Depends on where you are. It was our coolest July in a long time.

[MarianneW]

On track to be Arizona's hottest summer. So far, 30 days above 110 and summer isn't remotely over. It's been hot, to say the least.

I still have chiles setting this summer but they're almost all anuum.

[kurt]

Originally Posted by MarianneW

On track to be Arizona's hottest summer. So far, 30 days above 110 and summer isn't remotely over. It's been hot, to say the least.

I still have chiles setting this summer but they're almost all anuum.

Here in 10B we struggle with the humidity(now 80-100 in our rainy season) that wants to clump the pollens.Need to get someone with the pollen collection buzzer to save some pollens,freeze then use when needed like now.

[MarianneW]

Originally Posted by kurt

Here in 10B we struggle with the humidity(now 80-100 in our rainy season) that wants to clump the pollens.Need to get someone with the pollen collection buzzer to save some pollens,freeze then use when needed like now.

We go between 10 and 85% humidity so it's just a toss up. I've found if I stick with middle eastern chiles I still get pods, with shattah being my best performer by a mile.

It's been very hot here this summer, I'm sure we'll break the overall heat record--a record at least 100 years old. All the top years for heat in AZ are in the last 15 years. Sure, I remember 128f in AZ in the early 1990s but it always cooled off between heat waves. Not so anymore.

[garyc1234]

I'll be honest. I can't believe that folks are questioning whether global warming is occurring. It seems obvious to me that it is happening, and it's not due to natural temperature variations but greenhouse gases. Glaciers that haven't melted for centuries upon centuries are melting now. And those glaciers are never coming back even if we have a "cold spell."

[kurt]

Originally Posted by MarianneW

We go between 10 and 85% humidity so it's just a toss up. I've found if I stick with middle eastern chiles I still get pods, with shattah being my best performer by a mile.

It's been very hot here this summer, I'm sure we'll break the overall heat record--a record at least 100 years old. All the top years for heat in AZ are in the last 15 years. Sure, I remember 128f in AZ in the early 1990s but it always cooled off between heat waves. Not so anymore.

The superhots are all the rage here in S Florida now.Bartenders on South Beach are "infusing the pods" in their favorite distilled spirits.With so many diverse nationalities and cuisines everyone is claiming their peppers as the hottest and best. Jamacians/Scotch Bonnets,Cuban/ Habaneros ,Trinis with the Morugas/Bhuts etc..Kinda fun in a way to meet all the different gardners from the tropics.To settle the arguments I will pull out some of those NU MEX Morugas at maybe 2 million Scovilles(sans seeds)and send them packing and wondering .We use them sparingly in our cooking.

[My Foot Smells]

what's with all the chili reference. is it b/c they are hot to the taste, they like hot weather?

my chili's like moderate temps and shade to perform their best (ghost, hab's, etc..) they go gang buster in the early fall. during the heat peak, they stove up and flat out would not produce. the pods on the plant even got a little shriveled too.

my zip code was scorching in july, maybe hottest, dunno. it twas hot and pepper & tomato did not like it one bit.

[ginger2778]

I believe in science. This is from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association. I dont think they are selling a thing.

[garyjr]

Originally Posted by ginger2778

I believe in science. This is from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association. I dont think they are selling a thing.

The UAH is probably the best representation of temperature since it is satellite based and corrects for urbanization that may effect temp. data. This data has been avail only since 1979. The hottest July's on record are all 3 in the 2nd year of an El Nino.. 1997-98 being the hottest. 2009-10 the second hottest. 2015-16 could be on pace to surpass 97-98. This data contradicts Nasa's claim of 2014 being the hottest on record. They did walk this back a bit, claiming approx. 38% accuracy in their data set, but it did not receive front page headlines by the Post or any other major paper. El-nina is on the way so get ready for a cool down.

[Captain Neon]

Just an observation, as a student at the U of Minnesota, there were no global warming conferences scheduled on campus in January. A grad student once came to one of my classes seeking volunteers for her global warming study. It was January, and it was -45F out (Tower had reported a temperature that night of < -60F), there were no takers.

[gorbelly]

Originally Posted by Captain Neon

Just an observation, as a student at the U of Minnesota, there were no global warming conferences scheduled on campus in January. A grad student once came to one of my classes seeking volunteers for her global warming study. It was January, and it was -45F out (Tower had reported a temperature that night of < -60F), there were no takers.

Perhaps the students, like so many students today, had no grounding in basic science and therefore didn't understand that global warming can produce local extreme conditions, including extreme cold.

I don't know whether it's the obsession with standardized testing or what, but I have lots of friends in academia, and it consistently astounds me to learn from them how little their students know when they show up for college. In general, there is no big-picture grasp of the broad strokes of human history and human knowledge, and almost nobody understands the fundamentals of critical thinking or has any notion of how science actually works.

[dmforcier]

Two observations, Marsha. 1) Note that the base period 1951-1980 cited in the article is considerably cooler than the preceding and following 30 year periods. 2) Note that the chart covers a little more than a century. Look at the millennium scale charts.

Then remember that we're coming out of an ice age. The climate has been warming for the past 50,000 years or more. No need to get excited because it continues to do so.


Marianne, the last time I was in Phoenix it felt like a sauna. I blame all those swimming pools.

[dmforcier]

Here is a chart of the past 12,000 years, as we continue coming out of general glacial coverage. Note that the present day is on the left.