Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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April 1, 2017 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Seeding in Solo cups
For years Ive started my plants in little six pack starter cups with jiffy seed starter mix. After 2 sets of full leaves up potted to Solos.
I'm getting tired of up potting these things and just wondered why I cant just put the seed in the Solos to start with and skip the up potting business all together. Input greatly appreciated |
April 1, 2017 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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Makes perfect sense to me. If you plant more than one seed in the solo, you'll probably always get a seedling.
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April 1, 2017 | #3 |
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I read an interesting article recently where somebody started their seedlings in Solo cups, but they only half-filled the cup with potting mix so that they could add it later as the plant grew. I don't know how that would work under grow lights though....
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I'm thinking about trying it this summer when I plant the fall garden tomato seeds. I plant seeds outside in June - they're never in the house. I will do it in dappled shade - otherwise the new seedlings would burn up. I could do some like that and some the way I have been to see if there is any difference. |
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April 1, 2017 | #5 |
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If you spray with a mister bottle so the seeds don't go down under too much, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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April 1, 2017 | #6 | |
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You could probably make it work if you left the soil line down only about 1-2 inches below the rim. Then as long as you're using shop lights, drop the light fixtures to the point where they are just about touching the rims of the cups after the seeds emerge. |
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April 1, 2017 | #7 |
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To me the main reason is the germination process.
If for example you have to start 100 plants an sow seeds in 100 solo cups, then you have to need keep all those 100 cups warm for about 10 days and you will have to keep those 100 solo cups under light fo at least 4 weeks. The bottom line : IF YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES YOU CAN DO IT BY SOWING IN 16 OZ SOLO CUPS.
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April 1, 2017 | #8 |
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Some plants do better by potting them up.
This was discussed here some time ago by Craig of the now famous Tomato book. He made the mistake one year of not doing this and it set him back. There are other practical reasons too. One is you are using up less space at a critical moment. The other is you can use an expensive seed starting mix. You can select the best from a smaller area. Being able to take them out of the baby nursery as they are needed and sprout. Wasted time and soil on seeds that don't sprout. Worth As you can tell I am not a fan of |
April 1, 2017 | #9 |
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I've done that. A few reasons not to but the main one is drying out.
In small seedling cells they need to be moist to germinate, then once the true leave emerge, the seedlings start to take off needing more water to continue.... A very natural drying out of the soil happens easily then quickly. Why i wait a bit before potting up. A bit longer than just true leaves. No unwanted long term moisture on the soil surface for diseases, molds, etc. Probably ok to put 3-5 seeds if you have plenty, then thin/cull to the strong one. Extra roots from multiple seedlings will help absorb the extra water. I started 2/3rd down, then filled as they grew. I do that anyway when i pot up, then fill more soil as they grow. I like to get the seedling down deep in the pot. Can't do that if started in the cups from the get go. And they will be further from the lights if you start deep in cups. Seemed slow growing and leggy. Doable for sure. Not optimal results. I was pressed for time that year and nearly just went for nursery plants so it was a good choice at the time. I just prefer a clean soiless mix controlled, then pot up to a good potting mix and start feeding. |
April 1, 2017 | #10 |
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Another reason to start the plants in cells is for the root growth. By starting seeds in cells and then moving them up, you are restricting the tap root and encouraging the roots to spread out. Roots that spread far are preferable to a long main tap root because then are able to absorb more nutrients.
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April 1, 2017 | #12 | |
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April 1, 2017 | #13 |
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Transplanting corrects legginess, which is what I like about it.
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April 2, 2017 | #15 |
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Solo cups are so handy to use, especially the ones that come with the scratchable label. I always manage to get a few plants mixed up when I transfer them from trays to the cups though, it would be nice to do a side-by-side comparison
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