Tastywine Seedling not PL

JosephineRose · April 5, 2017

I started seeds for about 27 varieties on March 17, four seeds each. Today I went to pot up and discovered that one of my Tastywine seedlings has regular rugrose leaves instead of potato leaves.

That's a 25% result. Is that expected?

I will grow out both of course!

Purchased the seed this season from one of the Dwarf project's authorized retailers. I would have assumed it was a stray seed until I realized that it too is a dwarf as all four plants have rugrose foliage. If it's a stray, it's a dwarf stray.

Locomatto · April 5, 2017

Regular leaves are dominate over potato leaves. The 25% would be going the other way (from Regular to Potato - in the F2 generation).

Your seedling could be a stray or an F1 cross with another dwarf parent. If you save seeds from it, and grow them next year and you then get 25% Potato leaves from the Regular leaf tomato plant, then you're dealing with a cross.

Make sense?

JosephineRose · April 7, 2017

Yes. I will do so.

I have to admit, I kind of love it when these little surprises happen.

Gardeneer · April 9, 2017

Those plants in the picture DO have PL.

JosephineRose · April 10, 2017

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Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Those plants in the picture DO have PL.

Three do, the fourth one - in the lower right hand corner - does not.

And yes, it is smaller.

Gardeneer · April 10, 2017

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Originally Posted by JosephineRose

Three do, the fourth one - in the lower right hand corner - does not.

And yes, it is smaller.

My mistake. I missed that one.
I think probably it is stray seed.

AlittleSalt · April 9, 2017

The one with regular rugose leaves is also smaller/shorter.

AlittleSalt · April 10, 2017

The one that is growing different is the one I would be most interested in.

Gardeneer · April 10, 2017

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Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

The one that is growing different is the one I would be most interested in.

You must like suspense, drama and surprises

JosephineRose · April 10, 2017

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Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

The one that is growing different is the one I would be most interested in.

Me too!

Lindalana · April 17, 2017

To piggyback on conversation. I have started more than a dozen of For exhibition plants and about 25% of them came up PL. Plants of last year were not growing next to PL varieties. Question is- my RL seedlings still true to name? It is rare variety from Tanya and I really love it. Great salad tomato.

JosephineRose · April 17, 2017

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Originally Posted by Lindalana

To piggyback on conversation. I have started more than a dozen of For exhibition plants and about 25% of them came up PL. Plants of last year were not growing next to PL varieties. Question is- my RL seedlings still true to name? It is rare variety from Tanya and I really love it. Great salad tomato.

Is this Tastywine, or another variety? Email Tanya and ask, maybe she can shed some light on it?

I really do find unexpected results like to be an adventure.

Lindalana · April 17, 2017

Thanks! I will def check with Tanya.
Variety I am growing this year is For exhibition, got it last year from Tanya and have grown last year, collected my own seeds and started this year. Only to find out that 25% of them came as PL. There were no PL varieties grown in close proximity last year so this cross? is surprise. I am questioning if RL seedlings are still good ones, i.e. true to type.
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/For_Exhibition

April 5, 2017	#1
JosephineRose Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: California Posts: 383	Tastywine Seedling not PL I started seeds for about 27 varieties on March 17, four seeds each. Today I went to pot up and discovered that one of my Tastywine seedlings has regular rugrose leaves instead of potato leaves. That's a 25% result. Is that expected? I will grow out both of course! Purchased the seed this season from one of the Dwarf project's authorized retailers. I would have assumed it was a stray seed until I realized that it too is a dwarf as all four plants have rugrose foliage. If it's a stray, it's a dwarf stray.

April 9, 2017	#4
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,919	Those plants in the picture DO have PL. __________________ Gardeneer Happy Gardening !

April 5, 2017	#2
Locomatto Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 59	Regular leaves are dominate over potato leaves. The 25% would be going the other way (from Regular to Potato - in the F2 generation). Your seedling could be a stray or an F1 cross with another dwarf parent. If you save seeds from it, and grow them next year and you then get 25% Potato leaves from the Regular leaf tomato plant, then you're dealing with a cross. Make sense?

April 7, 2017	#3
JosephineRose Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: California Posts: 383	Yes. I will do so. I have to admit, I kind of love it when these little surprises happen.

April 9, 2017	#7
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	The one with regular rugose leaves is also smaller/shorter.

April 10, 2017	#8
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	The one that is growing different is the one I would be most interested in.

April 17, 2017	#11
Lindalana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 857	To piggyback on conversation. I have started more than a dozen of For exhibition plants and about 25% of them came up PL. Plants of last year were not growing next to PL varieties. Question is- my RL seedlings still true to name? It is rare variety from Tanya and I really love it. Great salad tomato.