Puck Tomato

[BlackBear]

I just found " Puck " variety available at Heritage harvest seeds (Canada).

I have been interested in it for a bit ....as it is reported to set

fruit at low temps ......

"A very rare English heirloom that was developed by the John Innes Institute in England in the 1940’s. Puck is a very dwarf variety that is excellent for growing in pots. The red fruit average 1 oz in size and have good taste. Great for short season and coastal climates. Determinate, rugose foliage. (55 days from transplant) "




Does anybody have any experience with this variety ?

Any comments of how it goes etc.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by BlackBear

I just found " Puck " variety available at Heritage harvest seeds (Canada).

I have been interested in it for a bit ....as it is reported to set

fruit at low temps ......

"A very rare English heirloom that was developed by the John Innes Institute in England in the 1940’s. Puck is a very dwarf variety that is excellent for growing in pots. The red fruit average 1 oz in size and have good taste. Great for short season and coastal climates. Determinate, rugose foliage. (55 days from transplant) "




Does anybody have any experience with this variety ?

Any comments of how it goes etc.

No experience from me,but here's what Tania's page for it says

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info

And it makes sense that it would be from Branscom, trust me on that

Currently being offered at Sandhil lPreservation,, from England, developed before 1950.

You already have the seeds but here's the link to Sandhill anyway.They do not send out seeds all year long

Glenn says acid tasting, but not tart, and no mention of rugose foliage. Perhaps Linda,his wife,forgot to enter it? And that since Glenn defines rugose at the beginning of his tomato section and knows very well what it looks like.. And in the introduction to the tomato section in the annual SSE Yearbook,the tomato section is the largest section,some 400 pages long .

http://www.sandhillpreservation.com/

Carolyn

[BlackBear]

I just had to get the Variety ...I am trying so hard to moderate the number of varieties per annum ..

for at least a year (LOL) ...but these ones will sneak through the filter.

As they are ....dwarf... container ....rugose ... and cool tolerant ?

Fruit tends to be hidden in leaves near the stem ? extra protection ?

I guess I will find out ....

Thanks for any insights ...

Originally Posted by carolyn137

No experience from me,but here's what Tania's page for it says

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info

And it makes sense that it would be from Branscom, trust me on that

Currently being offered at Sandhil lPreservation,, from England, developed before 1950.

You already have the seeds but here's the link to Sandhill anyway.They do not send out seeds all year long

Glenn says acid tasting, but not tart, and no mention of rugose foliage. Perhaps Linda,his wife,forgot to enter it? And that since Glenn defines rugose at the beginning of his tomato section and knows very well what it looks like.. And in the introduction to the tomato section in the annual SSE Yearbook,the tomato section is the largest section,some 400 pages long .

http://www.sandhillpreservation.com/

Carolyn

[MrBig46]

Originally Posted by BlackBear

I just had to get the Variety ...I am trying so hard to moderate the number of varieties per annum ..

for at least a year (LOL) ...but these ones will sneak through the filter.

As they are ....dwarf... container ....rugose ... and cool tolerant ?

Fruit tends to be hidden in leaves near the stem ? extra protection ?

I guess I will find out ....

Thanks for any insights ...

I'm testing Puck tomato this season.
Vladimír

[BlackBear]

Great deal ...let us know how ..it goes ...

I think the attribute of fruit close to the stem and hidden in leaves (protected)

makes it an interesting possibility for late fall
fruit harvest .......???

Originally Posted by MrBig46

I'm testing Puck tomato this season.
Vladimír

[BlackBear]

I think these Puck the seeds were started very late ...like May 15th ?

The short and stalky plants look very nice with healthy foliage....

The Fruit is well protected close to the center and can not be easily seen
and is well protected from outside elements exposure.

But locally.. We have had record breaking Sun and Heat this summer ...

I note that the habit of fruit protected in the leaves does more than protect

fruit from cold and frost....but also from unrelenting heat and sun .

Very nice looking container plant and foliage . Interesting habit to protect

fruit from cold ...OR sun and heat .

[KarenO]

Very nice! I like the shade provided by nice thick foliage like that. It's been a hot one here and I agree with you that your plant protected the fruit from sunscald..
Black Bear have you tried some of the vintage 60's era Canadian tomatoes in your container garden? Starfire improved is one I grow you might like, or any of the Doucette tomatoes?
KarenO

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by KarenO

Very nice! I like the shade provided by nice thick foliage like that. It's been a hot one here and I agree with you that your plant protected the fruit from sunscald..
Black Bear have you tried some of the vintage 60's era Canadian tomatoes in your container garden? Starfire improved is one I grow you might like, or any of the Doucette tomatoes?
KarenO

many moons ago I did try Starfire ..in 2 prairie provinces they
were complemented nice nicely with Bush beefsteak in my
small backyard plot with a small frost free period .....

blankets over plants to beat an early frost etc. etc.


They go well with "Manitoba " tomatoes as well .

....then I started down the path of the Siberian early stuff......LOL

and then it starts ......for all the others ...

[Labradors2]

I was told that the Doucet tomatoes are all rather tart, so I have given up the idea of growing any of them however early they might be.

Linda

[KarenO]

Originally Posted by Labradors2

I was told that the Doucet tomatoes are all rather tart, so I have given up the idea of growing any of them however early they might be.

Linda

Depends what you plan to do with them I think.
Fresh eating vs cooking or canning which is what I think they were specifically developed for-processing.
For that purpose, productive early red determinates have a very useful place in a vegetable garden. I have grown Rosabec,cannabec , and Superbec of this group and am developing an interest in collecting vintage Canadian tomato introductions. I think there are some good genetics worth preserving in many of those older and infrequently grown varieties.
Not to derail Black Bear's thread about puck, I can start a separate thread on the topic.
KarenO

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by KarenO

Depends what you plan to do with them I think.
Fresh eating vs cooking or canning which is what I think they were specifically developed for-processing.
For that purpose, productive early red determinates have a very useful place in a vegetable garden. I have grown Rosabec,cannabec , and Superbec of this group and am developing an interest in collecting vintage Canadian tomato introductions. I think there are some good genetics worth preserving in many of those older and infrequently grown varieties.
Not to derail Black Bear's thread about puck, I can start a separate thread on the topic.
KarenO

For many years I had a good friend named Raymond Tratt from Quebec, he grew lots of tomatoes in a large garden just outside of the city,and he too wanted to preserve,make more well known, some of the varieties that had been bred in Quebec.

I told him I thought they would get known better if he sent them to Glenn Drowns at Sandhill Preservation, and he did.

Right now I don't know where I put my 2017 catalog but I looked in the 2013 and found many,such as Superbec, Canabec, and I can't remember the others.

So checking out Glenn's website listings might be a good place to look for seeds.

And I say that since I think the Canadian version of seed listings here at Tville might well have gone defunct although anyone interested can check that out. It turned out that many who were not Canadians were putting up listed varieties.

Well,it looks like I was wrong, they are still in business,which might be an alternative place to get seeds. I didn't check to see if only Canadians could list and only Canadians could request.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Seed...&bih=788&dpr=1

Carolyn

[KarenO]

Double posted
my bad.

[KarenO]

Thank you Carolyn,
I will start a separate thread re this subject.
KarenO

[KarenO]

oh me too,...standard early determinates were all I knew.
Then I got adventurous about 20 years ago.
For cooking, canning etc all the farm ladies would have no other in the prairie communites I grew up in. Mostly meh fresh but useful for sauce, pickles, chutney, relish.... you name it. None of those women ever grew a paste and certainly never an indeterminate.
I actually liked this one. I started a new thread called vintage Canadian tomatoes. Sorry for hijacking your thread, it all started because I think this would do well in your pots and it's done very well here on the Island this summer so it's adaptable and tough. Let me know if you'd like some seed. KarenO

[BlackBear]

Originally Posted by KarenO

oh me too,...standard early determinates were all I knew.
Then I got adventurous about 20 years ago.
For cooking, canning etc all the farm ladies would have no other in the prairie communites I grew up in. Mostly meh fresh but useful for sauce, pickles, chutney, relish.... you name it. None of those women ever grew a paste and certainly never an indeterminate.
I actually liked this one. I started a new thread called vintage Canadian tomatoes. Sorry for hijacking your thread, it all started because I think this would do well in your pots and it's done very well here on the Island this summer so it's adaptable and tough. Let me know if you'd like some seed. KarenO

no problem at all Karen .....We all come by our Tomatoes ..

honestly .....LOL I have Starfire Improved seeds as well

I guess I did grow it in Campbell River in 10 gallon ..

but I had better luck somehow with those standard determinates mentioned

on the prairies than on the cool years on the wet coast ...

My Siberian cool ones did better under those conditions ...

I can see how Starfire would have done well this particular year ...

I will have to check out your Canadian vintage site ......