Got Kicked Out

countyhoosier · May 24, 2017

My wife has put her foot down and we have come to an agreement that I can no longer start seeds inside the house. We have been infested with fungus gnats. I took all of my seed starting stuff to the garage and have been using Mosquito Bits in the regular houseplant mix as well as watering with aerated water infused with mosquito bits. Hopefully this will take care of the problem for now. Next year what am I to do. We live in St Louis, MO, zone 6. I have an unheated but fully insulated garage that I will be using. I want to build some sort of seed starting box to fit my trays in. they will need a heat source, now I am using a 48x20 inch heat mat. will need some extra heat if I do a 2 shelf system. Any ideas or comments. No I am not getting rid of my wife. would love some pics or diagrams.

AlittleSalt · May 24, 2017

lol @ "No I am not getting rid of my wife." You have your priorities in place.

I am interested in reading the replies here. I start ours indoors, so I don't have many useful ideas from experience. The one thing I can think of is putting the shelves up higher because heat rises. Another thought is using chicken brooder lights nearby. They do put off a lot of heat.

dmforcier · May 24, 2017

Not addressing the question directly, but my understanding is that fungus gnats are a solid indication of persistent over watering. If the surfaces of your starting cells are dry most of the time, there won't be any fungus for the little buggers to feed on. Is this ringing a bell?

Cole_Robbie · May 24, 2017

Perlite as the top layer of your media will help discourage them.

Father'sDaughter · May 24, 2017

I only had issues when I was using older bags of starter and potting mix that were obviously infested. I ended up investing in a tub of Gnatrol in order to get the problem under control. Once I switched over to DE for seed starting, no more fungus gnats.

dmforcier · May 24, 2017

BTW, if the garage is insulated, why not just heat the whole space? Seems much simpler.

Demonstrate to She Who Must Be Obeyed that the gnats have been conquered, and you may get to sleep inside again.

Rockporter · May 24, 2017

Take a few small wide mouth jars, put about 1" of apple cider vinegar and a couple drops of dish soap in it. Set these all around your house and in the area you have all your starts. Wait a couple days and see just how many of those things you catch in there. Dump when it gets full and start over again. Once you get them under control you might not be kicked out anymore.

P.S. I brought home gnats from the grocery store and they just kept multiplying. I couldn't figure out what to do and a friend told me what to do. It worked very well and within about 1 week all the gnats flying around me were gone. I haven't had any for a very long time.

Worth1 · May 24, 2017

Just use an IR heat lamp like they use for brooding baby chicks and the red thing you see in some bathrooms ceilings.
Never in my life have I ever had a problem with gnats and starting seedlings, never.
Worth

drew51 · May 24, 2017

You could use coir instead, as it seems they come with the media you use. I like Black Magic potting soil, it has perlite and coir. Great for seed starting. As a potting mix I do not like it. I only use it to start seeds.

greenthumbomaha · May 24, 2017

I was just about to post what drew51 suggested. I used wonder soil this year for the first time and had zero fungus gnats. They were every bit as robust as those started in peat based seed starting soil. The trick will come when you pot them up into 4 inch pots, that ws is expensive.

- Lisa

Nematode · May 24, 2017

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Originally Posted by countyhoosier

My wife has put her foot down and we have come to an agreement that I can no longer start seeds inside the house. We have been infested with fungus gnats. I took all of my seed starting stuff to the garage and have been using Mosquito Bits in the regular houseplant mix as well as watering with aerated water infused with mosquito bits. Hopefully this will take care of the problem for now. Next year what am I to do. We live in St Louis, MO, zone 6. I have an unheated but fully insulated garage that I will be using. I want to build some sort of seed starting box to fit my trays in. they will need a heat source, now I am using a 48x20 inch heat mat. will need some extra heat if I do a 2 shelf system. Any ideas or comments. No I am not getting rid of my wife. would love some pics or diagrams.

We know what she got in the negotiation.... What did you get?

Worth1 · May 24, 2017

I bave no idea what it is with today's men.
Men rule the home and need to lay the law down.

Worth

imp · May 24, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

I bave no idea what it is with today's men.
Men rule the home and need to lay the law down.

Worth

Just smiling here.

**carolyn137** · May 24, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

I bave no idea what it is with today's men.
Men rule the home and need to lay the law down.

Worth

Patience is a virtue
Find it if you can
You'll find it in a woman
But seldom in a man.

QED ( quod erat demonstratum, aka, that which has been shown.

Carolyn

brownrexx · May 24, 2017

I used to have fungus gnats too until I started freezing my seed starting mix for a few days before using it. Usually I set the bags outside in freezing temperatures for a few days but this year I forgot and then it was too warm so I used this chest freezer and it worked fine.

No fungus gnats in the house. The freezing kills eggs in the mix. I have also heard good things about Gnatrol.

May 24, 2017	#1
countyhoosier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 9	Got Kicked Out My wife has put her foot down and we have come to an agreement that I can no longer start seeds inside the house. We have been infested with fungus gnats. I took all of my seed starting stuff to the garage and have been using Mosquito Bits in the regular houseplant mix as well as watering with aerated water infused with mosquito bits. Hopefully this will take care of the problem for now. Next year what am I to do. We live in St Louis, MO, zone 6. I have an unheated but fully insulated garage that I will be using. I want to build some sort of seed starting box to fit my trays in. they will need a heat source, now I am using a 48x20 inch heat mat. will need some extra heat if I do a 2 shelf system. Any ideas or comments. No I am not getting rid of my wife. would love some pics or diagrams.

May 24, 2017	#3
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	Not addressing the question directly, but my understanding is that fungus gnats are a solid indication of persistent over watering. If the surfaces of your starting cells are dry most of the time, there won't be any fungus for the little buggers to feed on. Is this ringing a bell? __________________ Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers

May 24, 2017	#6
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	BTW, if the garage is insulated, why not just heat the whole space? Seems much simpler. Demonstrate to She Who Must Be Obeyed that the gnats have been conquered, and you may get to sleep inside again. __________________ Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers

May 24, 2017	#7
Rockporter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Texas Coastal Bend Posts: 3,205	Take a few small wide mouth jars, put about 1" of apple cider vinegar and a couple drops of dish soap in it. Set these all around your house and in the area you have all your starts. Wait a couple days and see just how many of those things you catch in there. Dump when it gets full and start over again. Once you get them under control you might not be kicked out anymore. P.S. I brought home gnats from the grocery store and they just kept multiplying. I couldn't figure out what to do and a friend told me what to do. It worked very well and within about 1 week all the gnats flying around me were gone. I haven't had any for a very long time. __________________ In the spring at the end of the day you should smell like dirt ~Margaret Atwood~

May 24, 2017	#2
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	lol @ "No I am not getting rid of my wife." You have your priorities in place. I am interested in reading the replies here. I start ours indoors, so I don't have many useful ideas from experience. The one thing I can think of is putting the shelves up higher because heat rises. Another thought is using chicken brooder lights nearby. They do put off a lot of heat.

May 24, 2017	#4
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	Perlite as the top layer of your media will help discourage them.

May 24, 2017	#5
Father'sDaughter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: MA/NH Border Posts: 4,919	I only had issues when I was using older bags of starter and potting mix that were obviously infested. I ended up investing in a tub of Gnatrol in order to get the problem under control. Once I switched over to DE for seed starting, no more fungus gnats.

May 24, 2017	#8
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Just use an IR heat lamp like they use for brooding baby chicks and the red thing you see in some bathrooms ceilings. Never in my life have I ever had a problem with gnats and starting seedlings, never. Worth

May 24, 2017	#9
drew51 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Zone 6a/5b Posts: 1,302	You could use coir instead, as it seems they come with the media you use. I like Black Magic potting soil, it has perlite and coir. Great for seed starting. As a potting mix I do not like it. I only use it to start seeds.

May 24, 2017	#10
greenthumbomaha Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha Zone 5 Posts: 2,514	I was just about to post what drew51 suggested. I used wonder soil this year for the first time and had zero fungus gnats. They were every bit as robust as those started in peat based seed starting soil. The trick will come when you pot them up into 4 inch pots, that ws is expensive. - Lisa

May 24, 2017	#15
brownrexx Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 1,420	I used to have fungus gnats too until I started freezing my seed starting mix for a few days before using it. Usually I set the bags outside in freezing temperatures for a few days but this year I forgot and then it was too warm so I used this chest freezer and it worked fine. No fungus gnats in the house. The freezing kills eggs in the mix. I have also heard good things about Gnatrol.