Pink PL varieties....

cottonpicker · February 20, 2006

I've noticed several references to "pink PL " varieties as favorites for flavor. I'm aware of a few such varieties but think it would be instructional for the rest of us to see a list of YOUR favorite pink PL.
Thanks...

JerryL · February 20, 2006

One of my favorite pink PL varieties is Tiffen Mennonite.

For me it is meaty yet moist, very few seeds, sweet with a subtle tangy finish. About 1#. Brings back the tomato taste of my youth.

Jerry

**nctomatoman** · February 20, 2006

I've grown the following (we are talking large fruited oblate PL pinks - not including smaller ones such as Magnus) - looks like I've grown 24 different ones. Very brief comments below.

Brandywine - superior flavor
Glesener - one try, not impressed
Big Ben- ditto
Prudens Purple - very good, not great
Guiseppe's Big Boy - very, very good
Polish - excellent in flavor and production
Stump of the World - ditto
Aunt Ginny's Purple - unimpressed
Olena Ukrainian - umimpressed
A C Red - very good
Bilder - very good
Soldacki - very, very good
Nina's Heirloom - very good
Ruby Gold Potato Leaf - unimpressed
Marizol Bratka - very good
Large Dark Purple - excellent flavor
Purple Top - very good
Potato Leaf Type - very good
Taps - excellent flavor
German Pink - this is SSE tomato #1- the one that started it all! very good
Mama Irene's - unimpressed
Grandpa Charlie - very very good
Dot's Delight - excellent flavor
German Queen -- unimpressed
Marianna's Peace - unimpressed in two attempts
Granny Bradley - unimpressed
German Heirloom - very, very good

Note taht many of the above are from just one year growing, so not particularly valid. Just my initial views.

My choice of the best are those that are excellent above.

barkeater · February 20, 2006

Craig, I don't see Large Pink Bulgarian on your list. Have you not grown it?

EDIT - added by Craig - nope, have not grown it yet!

**carolyn137** · February 20, 2006

Larry, Larry, Larry!!!!!!

Why are you doing this?

There are hundreds and hundreds of large pink PL's and if we're talking some of my faves I'll have to go into a consultation with my brain before I could even think of listing all of them, for there are many, for me at least.

Honestly.

cottonpicker · February 20, 2006

carolyn..carolyn...carolyn.... jus' tho't I'd give you somethin' to chew on fur awhile... in case you weren't busy...LOL.... I'm actually looking for only a few of the most well known varieties that are usually in the fore front . NOT really asking for obscure varieties from Afghanistan or Antarctica(LOL..again). Thanks for the input!!

spudleafwillie · February 20, 2006

Larry,

Out of the 650+ varieties of PL's of all colors that I have been able to document in my PL database as of 2-15-06 only:

203 (31.2%) are pink
191 (29.4%) are red
28 (4.3%) are yellow
33 (5.1%) are purple - i.e. Aunt Ginny's Purple
8 (1.2%) are black -i.e. Eastern European types
7 (1.2%) are bicolor
186 (28.6%) other color or color not identified yet

I was suprised that the number of red PL varieties was almost as many as the pink PL varieties, 203 pink vs. 191 red.

When I first collecting "spudleafs" about 15 years ago I thought there might be 200 different PL varieties out of the approximately 12,000 varieties of all tomatoes , boy was I wrong !!!! Eventually I think 1000 different PL varieties are a distinct possibility, assuming many deliberate and inadvertant crosses of existing varieties and only a few genetic mutations.
Enjoy the stats,
Bill Malin

**nctomatoman** · February 20, 2006

Bill, it would be good to see your database. I am willing to bet that you have some of the colors wrong - Aunt Ginny's Purple is a pink, for example. I am also surprised at the number of reds you have, since I've found that large fruited potato leaf reds are quite rare.

cottonpicker · February 20, 2006

Hey... THANKS folks!! I get the point!! I'm hollerin' "uncle"!!!! 'Nuff!!! There **ARE LOTS** of pink PL out there. NEVER realized just how many. I DO appreciate the input and it really helps me and others too, I hope! Anone else have a "fav"?? Tell us about it...

cottonpicker · February 20, 2006

barkeater... I thought Large Pink Bulgarian was RL , not PL.

**carolyn137** · February 20, 2006

Larry,

Large Pink Bulgarian is RL.

OK, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, but will continue thinking about pink PL's 'cause I've got some other stuff to do this afternoon before I can then reestablish good thinking.

jwr6404 · February 20, 2006

Whole lot a thinking going on here. Glad I've only got 12 pots to worry about.

spudleafwillie · February 20, 2006

To all concerned,
Large Pink Bulgarian comes in both RL and PL.

Fusion Power has found a PL type among his RL Large Pink Bulgarian plants and has now grown it out to at least F5 with the PL trait apparently stable so far. He has not renamed it as a separate and distinct new PL.
Darrel, can you fill us in with the details on the history and whether you think it was an accidental or inadvertant cross or a genetic mutation.

I'll be growing out about 10 PL plants this year.

Spud

**carolyn137** · February 20, 2006

Bill,

I know about Fusion's PL, as do many here from his posting about it at GW in the past, but from what I know, or shall I say remember, which might be different,

the fruit shape is not that of the original Large Pink Bulgarian.

I'm sure he'll clarify the situation.

spudleafwillie · February 20, 2006

Carolyn,

I don't recall saying anything about the shape of Large Pink Bulgarian in my post. Why don't you let Fusion give us the information and the whole story firsthand instead of relying on your memory, good or bad? I am well aware of the previous posts on GW concerning the topic and need not be reminded of it

February 20, 2006	#3
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	I've grown the following (we are talking large fruited oblate PL pinks - not including smaller ones such as Magnus) - looks like I've grown 24 different ones. Very brief comments below. Brandywine - superior flavor Glesener - one try, not impressed Big Ben- ditto Prudens Purple - very good, not great Guiseppe's Big Boy - very, very good Polish - excellent in flavor and production Stump of the World - ditto Aunt Ginny's Purple - unimpressed Olena Ukrainian - umimpressed A C Red - very good Bilder - very good Soldacki - very, very good Nina's Heirloom - very good Ruby Gold Potato Leaf - unimpressed Marizol Bratka - very good Large Dark Purple - excellent flavor Purple Top - very good Potato Leaf Type - very good Taps - excellent flavor German Pink - this is SSE tomato #1- the one that started it all! very good Mama Irene's - unimpressed Grandpa Charlie - very very good Dot's Delight - excellent flavor German Queen -- unimpressed Marianna's Peace - unimpressed in two attempts Granny Bradley - unimpressed German Heirloom - very, very good Note taht many of the above are from just one year growing, so not particularly valid. Just my initial views. My choice of the best are those that are excellent above. __________________ Craig

February 20, 2006	#5
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Larry, Larry, Larry!!!!!! Why are you doing this? There are hundreds and hundreds of large pink PL's and if we're talking some of my faves I'll have to go into a consultation with my brain before I could even think of listing all of them, for there are many, for me at least. Honestly. __________________ Carolyn

February 20, 2006	#6
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	carolyn..carolyn...carolyn.... jus' tho't I'd give you somethin' to chew on fur awhile... in case you weren't busy...LOL.... I'm actually looking for only a few of the most well known varieties that are usually in the fore front . NOT really asking for obscure varieties from Afghanistan or Antarctica(LOL..again). Thanks for the input!! __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

February 20, 2006	#7
spudleafwillie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Zone 7b sw New Mexico,. Posts: 197	Pink PL varieties Larry, Out of the 650+ varieties of PL's of all colors that I have been able to document in my PL database as of 2-15-06 only: 203 (31.2%) are pink 191 (29.4%) are red 28 (4.3%) are yellow 33 (5.1%) are purple - i.e. Aunt Ginny's Purple 8 (1.2%) are black -i.e. Eastern European types 7 (1.2%) are bicolor 186 (28.6%) other color or color not identified yet I was suprised that the number of red PL varieties was almost as many as the pink PL varieties, 203 pink vs. 191 red. When I first collecting "spudleafs" about 15 years ago I thought there might be 200 different PL varieties out of the approximately 12,000 varieties of all tomatoes , boy was I wrong !!!! Eventually I think 1000 different PL varieties are a distinct possibility, assuming many deliberate and inadvertant crosses of existing varieties and only a few genetic mutations. Enjoy the stats, Bill Malin

February 20, 2006	#8
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Bill, it would be good to see your database. I am willing to bet that you have some of the colors wrong - Aunt Ginny's Purple is a pink, for example. I am also surprised at the number of reds you have, since I've found that large fruited potato leaf reds are quite rare. __________________ Craig

February 20, 2006	#1
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	Pink PL varieties.... I've noticed several references to "pink PL " varieties as favorites for flavor. I'm aware of a few such varieties but think it would be instructional for the rest of us to see a list of YOUR favorite pink PL. Thanks... __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

February 20, 2006	#2
JerryL Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: S.W. Ohio z6a Posts: 736	One of my favorite pink PL varieties is Tiffen Mennonite. For me it is meaty yet moist, very few seeds, sweet with a subtle tangy finish. About 1#. Brings back the tomato taste of my youth. Jerry

February 20, 2006	#4
barkeater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Kingdom, VT - Zone 3b Posts: 1,439	Craig, I don't see Large Pink Bulgarian on your list. Have you not grown it? EDIT - added by Craig - nope, have not grown it yet!

February 20, 2006	#10
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	pink PL varieties barkeater... I thought Large Pink Bulgarian was RL , not PL. __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

February 20, 2006	#12
jwr6404 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: University Place, WA Posts: 481	Whole lot a thinking going on here. Glad I've only got 12 pots to worry about. __________________ Jim

February 20, 2006	#13
spudleafwillie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Zone 7b sw New Mexico,. Posts: 197	Pink PL Varieties To all concerned, Large Pink Bulgarian comes in both RL and PL. Fusion Power has found a PL type among his RL Large Pink Bulgarian plants and has now grown it out to at least F5 with the PL trait apparently stable so far. He has not renamed it as a separate and distinct new PL. Darrel, can you fill us in with the details on the history and whether you think it was an accidental or inadvertant cross or a genetic mutation. I'll be growing out about 10 PL plants this year. Spud

February 20, 2006	#15
spudleafwillie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Zone 7b sw New Mexico,. Posts: 197	Pink PL Varieties, shape of LPB Carolyn, I don't recall saying anything about the shape of Large Pink Bulgarian in my post. Why don't you let Fusion give us the information and the whole story firsthand instead of relying on your memory, good or bad? I am well aware of the previous posts on GW concerning the topic and need not be reminded of it