Looking for Det. Dwarf's to grow indoors

Jonnyhat · October 3, 2017

Can you fine folks make some recommendations for these? I want to start them pretty soon so any insight would be fantastic!

Labradors2 · October 3, 2017

Red Robin (a red cherry) does well in a one-gallon container, and I find the taste is acceptable and not acidic like so many.

If you can grow something in a larger pot, Dwarf Arctic Rose or New Big Dwarf are good and produce large fruit.

Linda

Jonnyhat · October 3, 2017

any idea where I would find seed stock for those?

oakley · October 3, 2017

A good introduction to micro dwarfs here...
https://heritageseedmarket.com/index...warf-tomatoes/

For a released dwarf supplier, this is one...
http://www.victoryseeds.com/dwarf-tomato-project.html

I've not grown that many so others would need to suggest what
would do best indoors.

If you want to do some grow-out/hunting, some seed is available
here...
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=39520

I like hunting. Grew many last winter. Just need to plant minimum
12 seeds but 24-36 is best. Grow out the obvious smallest
seedling and look for good traits in 10-12 plants. Cull any that
reach the ceiling, lol.
I also grew some stable varieties.

Jonnyhat · October 3, 2017

Lighting is also not an issue as I am growing under a 1000w MH/HPS combination bulb with great temp and humidity control. I will hand pollinate everything too.

Gardeneer · October 3, 2017

Dwarfs are mostly indet with special growth habit (short inter nodes, wispy ....
I have grown about half a dozen of them and none had been det.

Hatgirl · October 9, 2017

I've been growing microdwarfs and very-short-determinates indoors for a few years now. I've never needed to pollinate them and I get multiple flushes of fruit. My favourite ones are:
506 Dwarf Bush Early
Bajaja
Little Sun
Mega Bite / Megabyte
Red Profusion
Red Robin
Snow Fairy
Sweet N Neat Scarlet Improved
Tumbling Tom Jnr Yellow

Locomatto · October 9, 2017

You may want to also look at some of the Parthenocarpic tomatoes that OSU developed. They are all determinant, but are not dwarfs so that may or may not preclude their use for you. You don't say how much vertical space you have. I've grown Siletz and really liked the flavor, and the plant only reached about 3 ft high for me.

(The parthenocarpic trait will allow the tomatoes to develop fruit in-doors without you having to hand pollinate them).

Nan_PA_6b · October 9, 2017

I highly recommend Hardin's Miniature. It's a micro, determinate habit but keeps on fruiting. It gets 6-12" tall. Grew it in a 1 gallon container. The flavor is marvelous. Strong tangy old-fashioned tomato flavor. I got mine at gardenhoard.com
Nan

slugworth · October 9, 2017

tiny tim was still alive outside and producing.
I dug 3 of them up and brought them indoors in a dishpan.

HudsonValley · October 9, 2017

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Originally Posted by slugworth

tiny tim was still alive outside and producing.
I dug 3 of them up and brought them indoors in a dishpan.

Tiny Tim is great! The flavor was surprisingly yummy. I recently started a few seedlings for windowsill growing over the bleak Northeast winter... Thankfully, I have a sunny office where they've done well in the past.

slugworth · October 10, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by HudsonValley

Tiny Tim is great! The flavor was surprisingly yummy. I recently started a few seedlings for windowsill growing over the bleak Northeast winter... Thankfully, I have a sunny office where they've done well in the past.

last year I had 4th of july hybrids in a windowsill and had real tomatoes in january.
They had blossoms with only about 12 hours of sunlight per day.

Hatgirl · October 10, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by HudsonValley

Tiny Tim is great! The flavor was surprisingly yummy. I recently started a few seedlings for windowsill growing over the bleak Northeast winter... Thankfully, I have a sunny office where they've done well in the past.

My Tiny Tim plants were a disaster indoors! Turns out they probably have the sundwarf gene, which causes them to undergo etiolation if they don't have perfect light levels.

dfollett · October 9, 2017

I can make no recommendations... However, if you are interested in playing with some tiny crosses looking for something worth growing, I could find some F3 or F4 seed that I think has potential to send you.

This thread will give you some ideas... http://tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=42980

October 3, 2017	#1
Jonnyhat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2015 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 337	Looking for Det. Dwarf's to grow indoors Can you fine folks make some recommendations for these? I want to start them pretty soon so any insight would be fantastic!

October 3, 2017	#6
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,919	Dwarfs are mostly indet with special growth habit (short inter nodes, wispy .... I have grown about half a dozen of them and none had been det. __________________ Gardeneer Happy Gardening !

October 3, 2017	#2
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,897	Red Robin (a red cherry) does well in a one-gallon container, and I find the taste is acceptable and not acidic like so many. If you can grow something in a larger pot, Dwarf Arctic Rose or New Big Dwarf are good and produce large fruit. Linda

October 3, 2017	#4
oakley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NewYork 5a Posts: 2,303	A good introduction to micro dwarfs here... https://heritageseedmarket.com/index...warf-tomatoes/ For a released dwarf supplier, this is one... http://www.victoryseeds.com/dwarf-tomato-project.html I've not grown that many so others would need to suggest what would do best indoors. If you want to do some grow-out/hunting, some seed is available here... http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=39520 I like hunting. Grew many last winter. Just need to plant minimum 12 seeds but 24-36 is best. Grow out the obvious smallest seedling and look for good traits in 10-12 plants. Cull any that reach the ceiling, lol. I also grew some stable varieties.

October 9, 2017	#7
Hatgirl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 211	I've been growing microdwarfs and very-short-determinates indoors for a few years now. I've never needed to pollinate them and I get multiple flushes of fruit. My favourite ones are: 506 Dwarf Bush Early Bajaja Little Sun Mega Bite / Megabyte Red Profusion Red Robin Snow Fairy Sweet N Neat Scarlet Improved Tumbling Tom Jnr Yellow

October 9, 2017	#8
Locomatto Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 59	You may want to also look at some of the Parthenocarpic tomatoes that OSU developed. They are all determinant, but are not dwarfs so that may or may not preclude their use for you. You don't say how much vertical space you have. I've grown Siletz and really liked the flavor, and the plant only reached about 3 ft high for me. (The parthenocarpic trait will allow the tomatoes to develop fruit in-doors without you having to hand pollinate them).

October 9, 2017	#9
Nan_PA_6b Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,194	I highly recommend Hardin's Miniature. It's a micro, determinate habit but keeps on fruiting. It gets 6-12" tall. Grew it in a 1 gallon container. The flavor is marvelous. Strong tangy old-fashioned tomato flavor. I got mine at gardenhoard.com Nan

October 9, 2017	#10
slugworth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: connecticut,usa Posts: 1,152	tiny tim was still alive outside and producing. I dug 3 of them up and brought them indoors in a dishpan.

October 9, 2017	#14
dfollett Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 693	I can make no recommendations... However, if you are interested in playing with some tiny crosses looking for something worth growing, I could find some F3 or F4 seed that I think has potential to send you. This thread will give you some ideas... http://tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=42980