Slovak heirlooms?

[MickyT]

Hi tomato friends,

I have been considering trying to breed a tomato for a while and I got this idea of crossing a Slovak heirloom variety with a Czech variety in an effort to bring Czechoslovakia back together in the form of a tomato. I was 8 years old when the country separated and it was a very sad moment for me and many others. There's obviously a lot of Czech tomatoes that are discussed here all the time and I'm growing Stupice, Moravski Div and Marianna's Peace this year, as well as the only Slovak tomato I've been able to find, St. Teresa. The only info I've been able to find on St. Teresa is from Tomatofest where I got the seeds from. Does anyone have any more info on this variety or is anyone aware of other Slovak heirlooms out there?

Thanks in advance!

[Nan_PA_6b]

I found this one:
Tiger Tom
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Tiger_Tom

Nan

[carolyn137]

I like your thinking about putting the two countries back together,this might help

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Tomatoes_by_Origin

But even better would be to contact Vladimir here at Tville and I will send him a PM and ask him to stop by when he has time,he is from the Czech Republic.

Carolyn

[MickyT]

Thanks Nan and Carolyn!

[MrBig46]

I am quite surprised by your statement that you are writing about the sadness of the division of Czechoslovakia. This division was wished by more than 90% of citizens of Slovak nationality and nearly 100% of citizens in Canada and the USA, who are accustomed to Slovak nationality. And so there was the separation of Slovakia, where today they have their government, their president, another currency (Euro), etc. As they are satisfied I do not know, I do not feel sorrow. I have a lot of friends in Slovakia and many of them grow tomatoes, even some inactive members of Tomatoville.
Since 1918 (with the exception of World War II) there has been a state called the Czechoslovak Republic. Therefore, there are no legacy of Czech or Slovak tomatoes. They are only Czechoslovak and nothing can change.
Still, there are enough Slovak OP tomatoes and lots of F1 hybrids. The seeds of tomatoes, I can send you.
Vladimír

[Nan_PA_6b]

Originally Posted by MrBig46

Still, there are enough Slovak OP tomatoes and lots of F1 hybrids. The seeds of tomatoes, I can send you.
Vladimír

Does this mean you know some Slovak OP tomatoes?

Nan

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Nan_PA_6b

Does this mean you know some Slovak OP tomatoes?

Nan

.....that's what Vladimir said

(Still, there are enough Slovak OP tomatoes and lots of F1 hybrids. The seeds of tomatoes, I can send you.
Vladimír)

And yes Nan,I remember you also posting about Slovak tomatoes as well and saying how the ones you had were very rare.If so maybe it would be interesting to list them in this thread , I can't remember if yours were all F1's with some OP's but we shall see when you post them and get Vladimir's opinion about them.

And now I'm thinking of this one

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Crnkovic_Yugoslavian

Carolyn

[pondgardener]

Originally Posted by MrBig46

I am quite surprised by your statement that you are writing about the sadness of the division of Czechoslovakia. This division was wished by more than 90% of citizens of Slovak nationality and nearly 100% of citizens in Canada and the USA, who are accustomed to Slovak nationality. And so there was the separation of Slovakia, where today they have their government, their president, another currency (Euro), etc. As they are satisfied I do not know, I do not feel sorrow. I have a lot of friends in Slovakia and many of them grow tomatoes, even some inactive members of Tomatoville.
Since 1918 (with the exception of World War II) there has been a state called the Czechoslovak Republic. Therefore, there are no legacy of Czech or Slovak tomatoes. They are only Czechoslovak and nothing can change.
Still, there are enough Slovak OP tomatoes and lots of F1 hybrids. The seeds of tomatoes, I can send you.
Vladimír

Vladimir,

Both of my father's parents immigrated over a 100 years ago from Terna, Czechoslovakia which I believe is part of Slovakia now. Visiting my grandmother when she was alive, I don't seem to recall her growing or even using tomatoes in any of her cooking or my parents as I was growing up. And it wasn't until I got married to an Italian, that I started to have much use for tomatoes. In what ways are tomatoes used in your country, other than eaten whole or used in soups?

[MrBig46]

Originally Posted by pondgardener

Vladimir,

Both of my father's parents immigrated over a 100 years ago from Terna, Czechoslovakia which I believe is part of Slovakia now. Visiting my grandmother when she was alive, I don't seem to recall her growing or even using tomatoes in any of her cooking or my parents as I was growing up. And it wasn't until I got married to an Italian, that I started to have much use for tomatoes. In what ways are tomatoes used in your country, other than eaten whole or used in soups?

Slovakia is a historical territory, which until 1918 was part of Hungary (within Austria-Hungary), then part of Czechoslovakia. Today it is a separate state Slovak Republic. Terňa Village can be found on Googlemaps. It is in the east of Slovakia, today it has about 1200 inhabitants. At the beginning of the 20th century, it was a poor region (like the northern mountainous part of Slovakia), where it was hard to live, and so many people moved to America. That's why there are more Slovaks than Czechs in the US.
I also do not remember tomatoes used much in the kitchen. Perhaps only tomato soup and tomato sauce with boiled beef or peppers stuffed with minced meat. Italian cuisine is also boiled today - mainly by young families.
Vladimír

[pondgardener]

Originally Posted by MrBig46

Slovakia is a historical territory, which until 1918 was part of Hungary (within Austria-Hungary), then part of Czechoslovakia. Today it is a separate state Slovak Republic. Terňa Village can be found on Googlemaps. It is in the east of Slovakia, today it has about 1200 inhabitants. At the beginning of the 20th century, it was a poor region (like the northern mountainous part of Slovakia), where it was hard to live, and so many people moved to America. That's why there are more Slovaks than Czechs in the US.
I also do not remember tomatoes used much in the kitchen. Perhaps only tomato soup and tomato sauce with boiled beef or peppers stuffed with minced meat. Italian cuisine is also boiled today - mainly by young families.
Vladimír

Vladimir,

Thank you for taking the time to provide some information about Slovakia. I will look forward to when you can list some varieties typically grown in Slovakia.

George

[Nan_PA_6b]

No, I've never had Slovak tomatoes, just Spanish & Romanian, which I specified are only rare here in the US. (They were all OP).

Nan

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Nan_PA_6b

No, I've never had Slovak tomatoes, just Spanish & Romanian, which I specified are only rare here in the US. (They were all OP).

Nan

My error.

But you are still in good hands with Vladimir in listing your spanish ones since he had a huge project going for several years about Spanish varieties, he got them from Baikal, and sent me MANY of the Spanish ones.

My major source for Spanish ones has been Ilex (paco) in Spain, but hasn't been here at Tville lately,I know why,nada to do with Tville, which of course I'm not going to go into.

And yes, we have several here from Romania as well,and they have sent me new ones almost every year that have been offered in my seed offers here.

Again,I apologize for not remembering correctly, it happens. As long as I'm still on earth,or even here at Tville, I no doubt will make some errors, but when I'm NOT on Earth,meaning also I'm NOT at Tville, well that's a different story.And I have several options to consider as well, as to how long I think it best to stay at Tville and in what capacity. Having been here on day One, back in Jan of 2006 it's been fine until the past few years,just my own opinion,which,sadly certain others here agree with as to their participation, and have left.

Carolyn

[Moshou]

Originally Posted by Nan_PA_6b

No, I've never had Slovak tomatoes, just Spanish & Romanian, which I specified are only rare here in the US. (They were all OP).

Nan

If you need more info about Romanian heirlooms you may visit
http://www.rosiidingradina.ro/romanesti


You may start a specific thread, if you think people is interested in
I will be happy to help with all I know about and I can do

[asmx91]

2019 I had a few Romanian kinds in cultivation.....I did like them.
2020 5 to 10 will follow...

look:

[NarnianGarden]

Carolyn: this is OT; but I for one, will miss you and your input here on the forums when you are gone.(for whatever reason that would be)
Hope that you will have many healthy and happy seasons here on earth before 'graduating'.