I'll know by Wednesday but......

BVGardener · March 24, 2008

I think I'm going to experiance a total crop failure and I'm at a complete loss as to why. It's like the plants I planted in the ground are in a perpetual state of severe transplant shock. I'm not new to gardening and have gardened for several years and have used the same method for most of those years quite successfully. Don't have a photo to post yet but I tell you, if this plays out the way it appears, I just don't know....as I said, I'm at a complete loss. I suppose a soil analysis would be in order to see whats going on.

Thank goodness I've not planted the dwarf project plants yet....at least I'll have those to enjoy.

Jay

duajones · March 24, 2008

Thats terrible news Jay. I sure hope they bounce back for you.

Tomstrees · March 24, 2008

Jay -

Last season I "hardened off" plants too quickly and they turned not a dead brown but a stunted brown color instead of a vibrant green. They were completely at a standstill.

After about a 2-3 week time frame, they returned to their beautiful healthy green. I've been there is what I'm saying; and hope all is not lost!

~ Tom

feldon30 · March 24, 2008

I would take a second look at the amendments you added. Perhaps something had too much nitrogen, ammonia? Perhaps some herbicide drift?

bryanccfshr · March 24, 2008

I am sorry to hear this. I hope that you do find the cause of the problem and that you can resolve it.

Douglas14 · March 24, 2008

Jay,
I hope your plants pull through. I really enjoy your posts and pics.

BVGardener · March 24, 2008

Thanks folks. There was much work I could have done yesterday but when I was standing out in the garden at about 2:00 yesterday, I just threw my hands up and called it a day....I just did not have the motivation.

What concerns me most is that the most transplant shock I've ever experianced is where the plants just sit there with no new growth for about three days and then they almost double in size and growth every 7 days for the first month or so.

I think I'm safe with regards to herbicide but ammonia or nitrogen, etc....could be. Tomorrow morning may shed some light on things....no pun intended but with full sun today and tomorrow, they would have to start pulling out of this condition.

Jay

feldon30 · March 24, 2008

My plants didn't look very happy the 2 days after I planted them. But they are starting to put on dark green foliage now.

Tomstrees · March 24, 2008

def. sounds like transplant shock ...

~ Tom

duajones · March 25, 2008

Jay, do you have any backups if things dont work out?

Duane

Hairy Moose Knuckles · March 25, 2008

Jay,

Do you recon it could be the high winds we are experiencing? I know around my place it has been terrible. Just a thought.

BVGardener · March 25, 2008

Duane, I've got about 6 plants left that I had not put in the ground....not counting the dwarf varieties. No doubt I will plant the dwarf varieties in containers. The big problem for me now is I'm out of time to harvest fruit before the heat and humidity kick in.

HMK, the wind has been intense around here too. I think I'm okay in that regard though. I did not get a good look at them yesterday as I did not get home until after dark but this morning I watered them all and could not draw any conclusions yet.

Jay

feldon30 · March 25, 2008

Well I've definitely got extra plants just so you know. And Ark Traveler and Cherokee Purple plants are still plentiful at local retailers.

But I'm hoping your plants will pull through.

If there is any question that it is wind or sun damage, I'd find some sticks or branches and stick them in the ground to make sort of a tent and then find some old sheets and drape them over the plants to give them a break. I'm guessing you've already watered them quite a bit?

BVGardener · March 25, 2008

Thanks Feldon. I've been trying to keep them well watered but it's a challenge with this wind that will not go away. What would be excellent at this point would be a nice 1" rain shower. I stress shower as you know the Texas weather which can give you an inch of rain in 5 minutes.

Jay

elkwc36 · March 25, 2008

Jay I wish you the best. Know how frustrating it can be. Last year when it seemed every day another plant went down to TSWV it was hard to go out and check them everyday and then it just stopped and the ones left produced like gang busters. So hope they turn around for you. I also want to say thanks for the seeds. Jay

March 24, 2008	#1
BVGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 542	I'll know by Wednesday but...... I think I'm going to experiance a total crop failure and I'm at a complete loss as to why. It's like the plants I planted in the ground are in a perpetual state of severe transplant shock. I'm not new to gardening and have gardened for several years and have used the same method for most of those years quite successfully. Don't have a photo to post yet but I tell you, if this plays out the way it appears, I just don't know....as I said, I'm at a complete loss. I suppose a soil analysis would be in order to see whats going on. Thank goodness I've not planted the dwarf project plants yet....at least I'll have those to enjoy. Jay

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Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	Jay - Last season I "hardened off" plants too quickly and they turned not a dead brown but a stunted brown color instead of a vibrant green. They were completely at a standstill. After about a 2-3 week time frame, they returned to their beautiful healthy green. I've been there is what I'm saying; and hope all is not lost! ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

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feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	I would take a second look at the amendments you added. Perhaps something had too much nitrogen, ammonia? Perhaps some herbicide drift? __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

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bryanccfshr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Farmington, Nm Posts: 450	I am sorry to hear this. I hope that you do find the cause of the problem and that you can resolve it. __________________ I moved!

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feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	My plants didn't look very happy the 2 days after I planted them. But they are starting to put on dark green foliage now. __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

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duajones Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Corpus Christi,Texas Z9 Posts: 1,996	Thats terrible news Jay. I sure hope they bounce back for you.

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Douglas14 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 602	Jay, I hope your plants pull through. I really enjoy your posts and pics.

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duajones Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Corpus Christi,Texas Z9 Posts: 1,996	Jay, do you have any backups if things dont work out? Duane

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Hairy Moose Knuckles Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zone 8 Texas Posts: 172	Jay, Do you recon it could be the high winds we are experiencing? I know around my place it has been terrible. Just a thought.

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elkwc36 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: SW Kansas Posts: 339	Jay I wish you the best. Know how frustrating it can be. Last year when it seemed every day another plant went down to TSWV it was hard to go out and check them everyday and then it just stopped and the ones left produced like gang busters. So hope they turn around for you. I also want to say thanks for the seeds. Jay