Golden Queen

Grub · February 1, 2006

Such a healthy plant but sooooo few fruit. What gives on this one? Plants either side, Golden Monarch and my Mystery Green, are setting fruit but Golden Queen doesn't even want to throwout flowers.

I fed the pant with a flower booster and still zip. The plant's 7ft tall and just incredibly healthy and bushy. A beast. What do you think of my theory that in selecting tomato varieties based on plant vigour, which is what I understand he did, many of Livingston's varieties grow but don't produce well? (ignoring Livingston's Favorite which is productive for me).

Cheers, Grub,

**carolyn137** · February 1, 2006

Grub,

I've grown a lot of the Livingston varieties and I don't see that they yield less than others.

What is the source of your Golden Queen? Did I send down under the USDA strain that matches the original Livingston description?

I can't remember what I've sent down without checking my notebook and I'm just not in the mood to go to the back room and fetch it.

The Golden Queen (USDA) as grown in my tomato patch always put out lots and lots of fruits. Only once back in the very early 90's did I grow the GQ that had been around in circulation for years, and as I remember it, it still was a good producer.

Carolyn

bully · February 1, 2006

this pic of a "Golden Queen" may help explain why it's not reproducing....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...y/PAelton1.jpg

Grub · February 1, 2006

Hi Carolyn,
I'm not sure on the seed source at this point in time, being desk-bound and all, but I will check my seed files this afternoon and report back. I do hope it's your one, as the description and pics in your book sound great.

Sounds like it must have sent a taproot down to a pool of pure nitrogen or urea. All growth.

Bully,
LOL. It cost $2,500 a ticket to attend the 12th annual Elton John/In Style benefit, with proceeds going to the Elton John Aids Foundation.

Elton himself began his evening by walking the carpet with partner David Furnish and Arthur, his beloved spaniel, who lapped up the paparazzi's attention.

Donald Trump and his girlfriend, model Melania Knauss, were escorted to their table and seated between Tony Bennett and "Las Vegas" siren Molly Sims and her actor boyfriend, Enrique Murciano.

The group dined on puree of tomato and roasted fennel soup and a salad of mache arugula and field of greens for starters, followed by grilled New York steak with roasted scallopini squash filled with potato and celery root puree.

bully · February 1, 2006

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puree of tomato and roasted fennel soup and a salad of mache arugula and field of greens for starters, followed by grilled New York steak with roasted scallopini squash filled with potato and celery root puree.

Ohhh does that sound goood, I can almost taste it.

Mean old Mrs. Bully has taken off her chef hat and put on her dietitian cap....that's right, she put me on a diet...grumble, grumble ..I'm as mean as a hungry bear too.

Grub · February 1, 2006

That soup sounds dietary to me

bully · February 1, 2006

I love fennel..especially when it's in sausage..Mmm sausage

Grub · February 1, 2006

No sausage, Bully. Not unless it's <5 per cent fat. And then you can only have a weenie weiner at most, with a bucket of salad and fat-free dressing. And watch those carbs. Just one bonsai dinner roll. And don't mention beer.

Raymondo · February 2, 2006

I went on a diet once. It was the worst afternoon of my life!!!

(Line stolen, alas, not original!)

Mantis · February 2, 2006

A solid diet of meat and beer does the trick Bully. Works for me anyway. Maybe I should write a diet book hmmm. LOL

cottonpicker · February 2, 2006

Great idea, Mantis!! Last time I was in Australia I thoroughly enjoyed Victoria Bitter.. VB!!! Make that part of your diet & it's a sure bet!!

Grub · February 2, 2006

Larry,
You have great taste! VB is seriously scoffable.
Cheers, Grub

**nctomatoman** · February 2, 2006

Bringing this back on topic, Grub! If it is indeed the Livingston Golden queen that we got out of the USDA in 1994, I find it varies from good to very good performance (yield and disease tolerance) in my garden, with consistently very good flavor. If you are not even getting blossoms. you could have a "mule" plant - the first time I grew Neves Az. Red, it did not have one blossom all season.

Suze · February 2, 2006

Bully, you're bad. Sure the diet isn't really for punishment?

Grub, I've grown Golden Queen (USDA strain) once before and it did fairly well for me in terms of both production and taste. I would/will definitely grow it again at some point.

Grub · February 2, 2006

That's an eight-foot stake at the front for my Mystery Green with Golden Queen behind. So you might be able to determine that it's a pretty huge plant.

I checked my seed stock and the seed is indeed USDA kindly send by Carolyn.

There are some fruits, abiout six in all, in bunches of two. They look like this

Some time to go I think. Hopefully I get more. :Grub

February 1, 2006	#1
Grub Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,722	Golden Queen Such a healthy plant but sooooo few fruit. What gives on this one? Plants either side, Golden Monarch and my Mystery Green, are setting fruit but Golden Queen doesn't even want to throwout flowers. I fed the pant with a flower booster and still zip. The plant's 7ft tall and just incredibly healthy and bushy. A beast. What do you think of my theory that in selecting tomato varieties based on plant vigour, which is what I understand he did, many of Livingston's varieties grow but don't produce well? (ignoring Livingston's Favorite which is productive for me). Cheers, Grub,

February 1, 2006	#4
Grub Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,722	Infertile Hi Carolyn, I'm not sure on the seed source at this point in time, being desk-bound and all, but I will check my seed files this afternoon and report back. I do hope it's your one, as the description and pics in your book sound great. Sounds like it must have sent a taproot down to a pool of pure nitrogen or urea. All growth. Bully, LOL. It cost $2,500 a ticket to attend the 12th annual Elton John/In Style benefit, with proceeds going to the Elton John Aids Foundation. Elton himself began his evening by walking the carpet with partner David Furnish and Arthur, his beloved spaniel, who lapped up the paparazzi's attention. Donald Trump and his girlfriend, model Melania Knauss, were escorted to their table and seated between Tony Bennett and "Las Vegas" siren Molly Sims and her actor boyfriend, Enrique Murciano. The group dined on puree of tomato and roasted fennel soup and a salad of mache arugula and field of greens for starters, followed by grilled New York steak with roasted scallopini squash filled with potato and celery root puree.

February 1, 2006	#6
Grub Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,722	Soup That soup sounds dietary to me

February 1, 2006	#8
Grub Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,722	Fennel No sausage, Bully. Not unless it's <5 per cent fat. And then you can only have a weenie weiner at most, with a bucket of salad and fat-free dressing. And watch those carbs. Just one bonsai dinner roll. And don't mention beer.

February 2, 2006	#9
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	I went on a diet once. It was the worst afternoon of my life!!! (Line stolen, alas, not original!) __________________ Ray

February 1, 2006	#2
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Grub, I've grown a lot of the Livingston varieties and I don't see that they yield less than others. What is the source of your Golden Queen? Did I send down under the USDA strain that matches the original Livingston description? I can't remember what I've sent down without checking my notebook and I'm just not in the mood to go to the back room and fetch it. The Golden Queen (USDA) as grown in my tomato patch always put out lots and lots of fruits. Only once back in the very early 90's did I grow the GQ that had been around in circulation for years, and as I remember it, it still was a good producer. Carolyn

February 1, 2006	#3
bully Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: S.E. MI Posts: 794	this pic of a "Golden Queen" may help explain why it's not reproducing.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...y/PAelton1.jpg

February 2, 2006	#10
Mantis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oz Posts: 1,241	A solid diet of meat and beer does the trick Bully. Works for me anyway. Maybe I should write a diet book hmmm. LOL

February 2, 2006	#11
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	meat & beer diet book Great idea, Mantis!! Last time I was in Australia I thoroughly enjoyed Victoria Bitter.. VB!!! Make that part of your diet & it's a sure bet!! __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

February 2, 2006	#12
Grub Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,722	VB Larry, You have great taste! VB is seriously scoffable. Cheers, Grub

February 2, 2006	#13
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Bringing this back on topic, Grub! If it is indeed the Livingston Golden queen that we got out of the USDA in 1994, I find it varies from good to very good performance (yield and disease tolerance) in my garden, with consistently very good flavor. If you are not even getting blossoms. you could have a "mule" plant - the first time I grew Neves Az. Red, it did not have one blossom all season. __________________ Craig

February 2, 2006	#14
Suze Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 3,027	Bully, you're bad. Sure the diet isn't really for punishment? Grub, I've grown Golden Queen (USDA strain) once before and it did fairly well for me in terms of both production and taste. I would/will definitely grow it again at some point.

February 2, 2006	#15
Grub Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,722	Golden Queen That's an eight-foot stake at the front for my Mystery Green with Golden Queen behind. So you might be able to determine that it's a pretty huge plant. I checked my seed stock and the seed is indeed USDA kindly send by Carolyn. There are some fruits, abiout six in all, in bunches of two. They look like this Some time to go I think. Hopefully I get more. :Grub