Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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July 30, 2008 | #1 |
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3 different black cherries
From left to right: Sandy's Chocolate Cherry, Chocolate Cherry and Black Cherry.
Perhaps the Chocolate Cherry could have used another few days to ripen further and develop a darker colour. |
July 31, 2008 | #2 |
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Hard to tell from pic, but is Sandy's Chocolate cherry a red/black? The other two look like pink/blacks?
I just don't get the Black Cherry taste thing - it seems people either rave about its flavour or are not impressed - unfortunately I was not impressed with my grow out the first year these were introduced - however I must say I've never grown such a prolific plant - seed was from TGS Please do give us a taste rating of the three once the Chocolate Cherry is ready for consumption
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July 31, 2008 | #3 |
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i have never been impressed with the cherry tomatoes my friends grow here but i was thinking of trying a black cherry next year.
do any of these 3 stand out in the flavour department? i only have a small garden so i think i will grow the cherry in a seperate container. thanks dave |
July 31, 2008 | #4 |
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There are so many boring, insipid cherry tomatoes that I wasn't really excited about growing them. If I grow a cherry, it better be darn good. I tried Sungold after seeing almost unanimous recommendations to grow it. It really delivered. I had heard many good things about Black Cherry and found one 2" tall seedling at a mom & pop nursery that they were babying under fluorescent lights. I took good care of it and it grew to be a 7' tall monster.
Sungold is almost overwhelming with how sweet and fruity it is. A few people actually dislike it because of the strong fruity flavor. Black Cherry is sweeter but no less rich and bold in flavor. So many of the red and pink cherry tomatoes I find to be awful or just plain boring, but Brandysweet Plum is a pink cherry which is now on my list as well. Super sweet and velvety in texture instead of rock hard. I am growing at least 2 plants of Brandysweet Plum this fall. That's how much I loved it. All 3 are worth giving a try. Some people also like Sweet Quartz hybrid cherry. From 1 Sungold plant Sungolds and Black Cherries Click for Another pic of Black Cherry: http://www.feldoncentral.com/garden/...erry8.jpg.html
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July 31, 2008 | #5 |
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The first year I grew Black Cherry it was very bland (though a couple gave me a hint of what people were raving about). The 2nd year I grew it in different soil and oh my! The taste truly was reminiscent of an orchard grown BC sweet cherry.
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July 31, 2008 | #6 |
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The addition of organic matter makes a huge difference in the taste of tomatoes in my experience. What might be an average tasting tomato can taste fantastic when grown in exceptional soil full of shredded leaves, compost, and organic fertilizers. I discovered this when visiting Deer Park.
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July 31, 2008 | #7 |
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OK I'll give Black Cherry another go in 2009 - another plus - the earliest for me the year I grew it
And I agree Feldon - Brandysweet Plum is a winner and what are those good looking blacks behind the Sungold/Black Cherry mix?
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July 31, 2008 | #8 |
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For the record I love Black Cherry. There's
another one called Black Sweet listed in the SSE Yearbook but I don't think it's as good as Black Cherry, actually far from it. I don't know Sandy's Chocolate Cherry. Could you please tell us more about it and what the origin is?
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Greetings Carolyn,
I recall it was a volunteer grown by Sandy Fuchs - received seed from Sandy in 2004. I have not grown this one, but did share seed with Jeff. I'll see if I have any additional information in my "files" OK, found our email correspondence - from Sept. 2004 - Sandy says: Quote:
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July 31, 2008 | #10 |
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PNW_D,
Those other blacks are Paul Robesons. They weren't as good as last year for some reason.
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July 31, 2008 | #11 |
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is babywine similar or same as brandysweet plum
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July 31, 2008 | #12 |
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sounds like i might have to make room on the deck for 2 more pots. in my containers...i just use miracle gro garden soil.
i see seeds for black cherry are fairly common. how about sungold? are they harder to get? i joined SSE to late to get the yearbook. |
July 31, 2008 | #13 |
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Sungold is a Japanese hybrid that you can get from seed suppliers like TGS.
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July 31, 2008 | #14 |
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I was shocked to read that the Sungold is a Japanese hybrid. I was just there this spring visiting and as usual I went to a huge seed supplier to see what's new. I did not see any Sungold-looking cherries at all. Hmmm...next year I will ask about them and take them a seed packet for photo reference in case it is under another name. I love Sungold for its taste too but mostly cuz it is thin-skinned. Black Cherry has too thick of a skin for my taste, I pop one in my mouth and the skin is left after I bite into the flesh. Is there another black or pink cherry that is thin-skinned that anyone would recommend?
Is Brandywine Plum thick-skinned? If not, what suppliers offer this seed? Suzie |
July 31, 2008 | #15 |
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thanks very much guys. i just ordered black cherry and sungold. the beginings of 2009...wow.
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