Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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October 29, 2008 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Best tom for your state
Please rate these( SCALE 1 THRU 10 ) Productivity-vigor Disease resistance =Marianna Peace--NAR--Prudens Purple--Akers W. Va.--Rose--Gary O`sena--German Johnson--Abe Lincoln. Where grown?
Best Yellow-Gold = Yellow BW--Aunt Gerties Gold ---Toms yellow wonder--Yoders--KB--KBX THANKS Bill PS taste ok not important for this survey--Location very important.
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October 29, 2008 | #2 |
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Add your favorite if not on above list
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October 29, 2008 | #3 |
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Bill, if you're asking anyone from any state to rate what you listed and then in addition to state their faves in the state where they grow I'm not too sure how this is going to help you in GA.
There are several growing zones in many states and even within a given zone within a given state there are many microclimates. I know quite a few growers in NC, KY, SC AL and GA and as long as they get their plants out at the proper time they can grow anything they want to. Am I missing something in your request in terms of your growing in GA?
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October 29, 2008 | #4 |
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If you're worried about productivity, vigor, and disease resistance, there's always hybrids. People grow the varieties you listed because they care about flavor more than the other parameters.
When you're talking about growing tomatoes 15 minutes from Atlanta, GA, then I'd look at what people grow in similar climates, Houston for example. And not just what people grow but how people grow them. In Houston, timing is everything. If you plant 2 weeks late, you can cut your harvest in half. I plant early March even with the risk of frost. If I wait until there's no chance of frost (We've had frost in early April before), then you get no tomatoes. There are some good varieties which taste great AND set early enough. The examples I always give are Jet Star (a hybrid) and Gregori's Altai (the earliest, most productive pink beefsteak I've ever seen). I keep finding new varieties that do well, like Black Early and Belorusian Early (ping pong ball-sized fruit) and the quest continues. I'm about to give up on fall tomatoes though. It's October 29th and the overnight temp was 38 degrees. Last year we had a frost on December 1st or so. Think I'm gonna stick with beans and cucumbers. P.S. Yellow Brandywine is probably the least productive on your list.
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October 29, 2008 | #5 |
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Ironically, of the plants you listed for productivity, vigor and disease resistance, NAR beat the others here. (I grew it after Carolyn released it.)
Of course, it's so late ripening that it's a gamble. This year we had a "green tomato summer" in western Oregon. Most of my tomatoes did not ripen. But I had a neighbor up the street whose plants did. Mostly early tomatoes, but even the heirloom plants I gave her ripened, although not as prolifically as in years past. Shows the incredible difference a microclimate can make. I think her biggest producer was Stump of the World. Many pounds of tomatoes. Which she shared with me because she is a single lady feeding herself and her little dog. Her dog liked Stump of the World quite well. Kept bringing them into the house and eating them right away, or hiding them in bed. LOL. Thank goodness my beans, beets and a few other things grew beautifully. |
October 29, 2008 | #6 |
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Mary thanks I sent seeds to Portland last year had I known about stump I could have sent her some, I still have the addy I`ll contact her about stump. Thanks for the feed back
I enjoy your post on T`ville Bill
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October 29, 2008 | #7 |
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I am about 103 miles south of Portland. Portland, depending on what part you are in, generally stays warmer than my part of the state. SOTW should do just fine there.
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October 29, 2008 | #8 |
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Thanks so much for your input and helpful info. I give a large no of tomato seed to New growers ( some exp ). I`m often ask for toms that will be suitable for a certian area. the ones I listed are ones that I have to give to others. I just thought that if I knew growers who had good luck with these in certain ares I could better advise them when I`m ask. Carolyn you and Feldon have the expertise to help me with this information. You both know why I didn`t ask for taste Thanks and God Bless
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October 29, 2008 | #9 |
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Feldon I don`t give out many hybrids to hard to save seed ha ha Bill
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October 29, 2008 | #10 |
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Thanks mary and Good Gardening
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October 29, 2008 | #11 |
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Mary have you tried Rattle snake beans, if not i`ll send you some seed, you`ll love um.
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October 29, 2008 | #12 |
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Bill, now I do understand why you asked but I think it's impossible to match up a tomato variety with a particular region outside of those that match your own area.
I've done lots of seed offers online and I think it's up to those folks participating in the seed offers to make their own choices since there's absolutely no way that I can predict what will do well in any one location. And the same comments apply to those varieties I list in the SSE Yearbooks. And if a particular variety comes to me highly recommended I always grow it a second year b'c no two seasons are the same in terms of performance. Just my opinion,
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October 30, 2008 | #13 |
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East Texas
I can understand what you are trying to do. Any increase in knowledge is a great thing. I am hoping to see alot of answers to your survey because I am curious as to what would grow best in my region as well as others. I really have only done op's and heirlooms this season. I live in East Texas. So far Black Krim, Pineapple and Italian tomato tree have worked for me the best. Pineapple and Tomato tree finished up late because when the heat hit they would not produce but then when it cooled down they started working hard again. I have a full bowl of green tomatos on the counter because of frost. I did not have a fall garden becuase I did not know I was supposed to. I am thinking I should have a few late season but I need to focus on early and midseason varieties for fall garden. Oh yea and cherries.
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May 24, 2011 | #14 |
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Interesting, how much space should I leave the Italian tree tomato, I worry about my pepper plants they are 4 foot from them.
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November 23, 2008 | #15 |
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Bill, sorry I am just getting back to this. Would love to try Rattlesnake beans. Will send you a p.m. If your offer is still open, there's certainly no hurry. Wouldn't be able to plant them till around mid to late May. We live in an excellent bean growing area.
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