AVOID Pepper Joe's AT ALL COSTS! - Page 14

feldon30 · November 30, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heritage

Please people, this thread does nothing to embrace our shared love of growing tomatoes - it is neither constructive nor positive. Before we are hoisted by our own petards, let's kill this thread and move on...

Using photos without permission is one thing.

Using photos without permission and ignoring requests to take them down is illegal.

I'm not even going to start on the threatening e-mails.

You're happy to share your photography with a commercial website. Not everyone else here is happy with brazen theft.

Sun City Linda · November 30, 2012

Boy. What are the odds this last drama would erupt over one of the few pictures Penny actually has rights to? Go figure.

**Mischka** · November 30, 2012

I've been getting threatening emails from them for months. I've only posted a few of the many. In them I've been called Hitler and a Nazi, among other offensive terms. Along with others here, I also tried to reason with them... but that cannot be done with unreasonable people.

FILMNET · November 30, 2012

Actually this law was from years ago, Penny can use photo's to show what the plants will look like. Put when she sells seed, she cannot use your shots!!!

December 1, 2012

Has anyone tried to call them, or have they tried to call [to try and work things out]?

Tania · December 1, 2012

Folks, I think everyone needs some good night sleep.

Let's not do what we may regret about later. Community is a very powerful thing, it can easily distort one's view and judgement. We need to stop and think about what we are doing here. It is better done with a clear head.

kurt · December 1, 2012

All well and good for the people who are not affected financially. The "head in the sand" attitude is great but in the meantime the site is making money and still copying images, still falsifying info and blatantly in denial of such. Nail them to the wall and let the site operate like all the other "honest hard working" vendors out there. Now the site is on F-Book supporting a new line of "Dwarf tomatoes". Makes me sick.

ContainerTed · December 1, 2012

Some of you will notice that there have been significant changes to the Dwarf Page at PennysTomatoes.com. My picture of Yukon Quest is no longer there. I will have more details in the next couple of days. Everyone keep calm. Now is not the time to shove threats and such around. I'll explain later, but need your cooperation at this time.

FILMNET · December 2, 2012

Penny's Tomatoes and Pepper Joe's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Facebook

When a "Good Tomato goes Bad". Sorry if you saw any Drama here today. I had to toss 2 folks out of our Gardening Community(haven't had to do that in ages). Joyce from Miami said we 'Stole' our Sleeping Lady Tomato pic from the Tomatoville Website. Joyce is dead wrong. And we had some Dude using filthy language to one of the Ladies here. Look, I'm far from a prude, but I won't tolerate a Lady b...eing talked to like that. Or to any of the fine members of our Facebook Group. Joyce must be a Tomatoville Tomato Cop...they have a few of them that go WAY overboard. I have the original RAW file for that pic and will post it soon...as well as the email from our guy that took the pic. And the profanity to one of our Ladies here... I just won't have that. I believe in freedom of speech BIGTIME...and no censorship...but I spend a lot of time and money on this Facebook page and had to make a statement here about bullying. Thanks for understanding, No REALLY bad Tomatoes

**Mischka** · December 2, 2012

Posted less than an hour ago @ 8:10 EDT.

kurt · December 2, 2012

"Dwarf Tomatoes and MORE Dwarf tomatoes. Penny's Tomatoes is adding a lot of new Cherry Tomatoes, Patio Tomatoes and Dwarf tomatoes for any of our customers that are space-challenged. Or if you just want to make more room for those tasty Hot Peppers. We'll notify our loyal Customers and Facebook Fans FIRST because some seeds are rare and in limited quantities. Penny's Exclusive TM pic. Thaks Steve from Heritage Seeds for providing it to us. "

http://www.pennystomatoes.com/ On the same F Book listing.

FILMNET · December 2, 2012

That video Mischka posted is so funny he hates us!!!
Craig and the other from the Dwarf start people, may has know about the seeds I hope?

**Mischka** · December 2, 2012

Copyright isn't limited to photographic images. Text, lyrics and music are also covered.

On the left is original text, written by Patrina. Notice the Aussie spellings of "flavour" and "colour": (see http://www.dwarftomatoproject.net/ )

On the right is the exact same text, word-for-word, ripped off and used without permission by Penny Mohney: (see http://pennystomatoes.com/dwarf-tomatoes.html )

gixxerific · December 2, 2012

I have copied some decriptions (no pictures) from Tat's site. Is that wrong? I use them for my own personal use not a website. Though when trading I copy and paste my master list for referance for others. I want to do some better pics next year, and if needed upload them to Tat's site.

I hope Tat doesn't have a problem I used her site since it is one of the top databases out there.

Dono

**Mischka** · December 2, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxerific

I have copied some decriptions (no pictures) from Tat's site. Is that wrong? I use them for my own personal use not a website.

You've answered your own question. Common sense prevails here.

November 30, 2012	#198
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	I've been getting threatening emails from them for months. I've only posted a few of the many. In them I've been called Hitler and a Nazi, among other offensive terms. Along with others here, I also tried to reason with them... but that cannot be done with unreasonable people. __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

November 30, 2012	#199
FILMNET Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,803	Actually this law was from years ago, Penny can use photo's to show what the plants will look like. Put when she sells seed, she cannot use your shots!!! Last edited by FILMNET; November 30, 2012 at 07:15 PM.

December 1, 2012	#201
Tania Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anmore, BC, Canada Posts: 3,970	Folks, I think everyone needs some good night sleep. Let's not do what we may regret about later. Community is a very powerful thing, it can easily distort one's view and judgement. We need to stop and think about what we are doing here. It is better done with a clear head. __________________ Tatiana's TOMATObase Last edited by Tania; December 1, 2012 at 04:23 AM.

December 1, 2012	#202
kurt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl. Posts: 2,500	All well and good for the people who are not affected financially. The "head in the sand" attitude is great but in the meantime the site is making money and still copying images, still falsifying info and blatantly in denial of such. Nail them to the wall and let the site operate like all the other "honest hard working" vendors out there. Now the site is on F-Book supporting a new line of "Dwarf tomatoes". Makes me sick. __________________ KURT

December 1, 2012	#203
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	Some of you will notice that there have been significant changes to the Dwarf Page at PennysTomatoes.com. My picture of Yukon Quest is no longer there. I will have more details in the next couple of days. Everyone keep calm. Now is not the time to shove threats and such around. I'll explain later, but need your cooperation at this time. __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch

November 30, 2012	#197
Sun City Linda Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Inland Posts: 2,705	Boy. What are the odds this last drama would erupt over one of the few pictures Penny actually has rights to? Go figure.

December 1, 2012	#200
WillysWoodPile Guest Posts: n/a	Has anyone tried to call them, or have they tried to call [to try and work things out]?

December 2, 2012	#206
kurt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl. Posts: 2,500	"Dwarf Tomatoes and MORE Dwarf tomatoes. Penny's Tomatoes is adding a lot of new Cherry Tomatoes, Patio Tomatoes and Dwarf tomatoes for any of our customers that are space-challenged. Or if you just want to make more room for those tasty Hot Peppers. We'll notify our loyal Customers and Facebook Fans FIRST because some seeds are rare and in limited quantities. Penny's Exclusive TM pic. Thaks Steve from Heritage Seeds for providing it to us. " http://www.pennystomatoes.com/ On the same F Book listing. __________________ KURT

December 2, 2012	#207
FILMNET Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,803	That video Mischka posted is so funny he hates us!!! Craig and the other from the Dwarf start people, may has know about the seeds I hope?

December 2, 2012	#209
gixxerific Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: in the gutter, with my mouth Posts: 123	I have copied some decriptions (no pictures) from Tat's site. Is that wrong? I use them for my own personal use not a website. Though when trading I copy and paste my master list for referance for others. I want to do some better pics next year, and if needed upload them to Tat's site. I hope Tat doesn't have a problem I used her site since it is one of the top databases out there. Dono

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