A garden is only as good as the ground that it's planted in. Discussion forum for the many ways to improve the soil where we plant our gardens.
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March 10, 2015 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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What can I plant on rough new ground that is no till?
I cleared a wooded part of my land to add space to the veg garden. I can till it up, but it will require a lot of effort ripping out tree roots. I am only living here one more year and would like to avoid that if possible. The soil is soft and crumbly, a clay mixture for sure, but previous owners had horses back there so between the horse manure that broke down and the woods decay of leaves and such it is ok soil without ammending.
I figure I can plant pumpkins out there easily as they kinda ramble and take over without much work. Probably corn too, I was thinking potatoes, but I am not sure how easy they will do. Do you have any recommendations on what breaks new ground the best? TYIA
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March 10, 2015 | #2 | |
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Similar to this, but instead of in sod, it is in newly cleared forest. Red Baron Project
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Scott AKA The Redbaron "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system." Bill Mollison co-founder of permaculture Last edited by Redbaron; March 10, 2015 at 09:06 PM. |
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March 10, 2015 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
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Sweet potatoes and field peas (Cowpeas). Low maintenance, should be ok without irrigation unless it turns out to be a very dry year.
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March 10, 2015 | #4 |
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Thanks I wouldnt have thought of those. I'll be hand watering all summer Feel bad for me? lol
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March 10, 2015 | #6 |
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I hope my method works too! I will be expanding it into an old abandoned farm this year. It better work or else I will have spent a major amount of time effort and no small amount of money for nothing.
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March 11, 2015 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
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My only concern is things with small seeds that are broadcast, like lettuce. I don't want to start in pots so I will probably loosen and rake a few inches in areas for that sort of stuff.
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March 15, 2015 | #8 |
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Gardening in Houston Area. Fungus is a big problem. Does copper interfere with beneficial bacteria such as actinovate, or Reglia? Is Serenade affective?
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March 25, 2015 | #9 |
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Last edited by Mike723; March 25, 2015 at 08:52 AM. Reason: double posted |
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Yea, copper-based fungicides are toxic to soil bacteria. I haven't used serenade, but foliar feeding with a fungal dominant tea (preventative maintenance) will also help ya with the fungus. Quote:
To finish it off I'd top it with some mulch - grass clippings, leaf mold, bark etc .. That should give the food web a nice boost and loosen the soil up some more.. You could also inoculate the pumpkins with some fungus - Good luck! http://www.hollandsgiants.com/soil.html Last edited by Mike723; March 25, 2015 at 02:37 AM. |
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