Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

New to growing your own tomatoes? This is the forum to learn the successful techniques used by seasoned tomato growers. Questions are welcome, too.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old March 25, 2017   #1
RomanX
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 119
Default Needy seedlings . . . . .HELP!

My seedlings have nice, green leaves. . . . .but with purplish undersides!

How do I correct this deficiency??

I water from the bottom (they have 1+ sets of true leaves) with a complete water-soluble fertilizer (at half strength, this is ~ 7-17-13, with micro-nutrients included).

I let them "drink up" as much as they will, starting with 20 minutes. . thinking that that amount of time would do. It did, for a day or two: then purplish undersides again! Five days later, I bottom fertilized again, but this time let them "drink up" for 30 minutes. Same result: 1-2 days of normalcy, then back to purplish undersides!

I initially choose this complete fertilizer (Jack's Classic Bloom Bust4er) last year over MG Tomato Fertilizer for my mature tomato plants. . . after resolving nutritional deficiencies while "on" MG; once cured and fertilizers switched, my plants did not develop any more deficiencies. So this year, I compared the chemical analyses of MG Tomato and Jack's Classic: while MG offered higher N, it did not list the 2 crucial micro-nutrients but Jack's Classic did.

I'm wondering now if the seedlings need the higher N . . . more so than the micronutrients.
RomanX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 25, 2017   #2
pmcgrady
Tomatovillian™
 
pmcgrady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 1,836
Default

How cold is it in the room you are growing them in? If it's at lower temps, it will cause the plants to turn purple. It slows the growth rate down.
pmcgrady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 25, 2017   #3
bower
Tomatovillian™
 
bower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 6,794
Default

Purple undersides of leaves is a sign of phosphorus deficiency - typically caused by cold because it prevents the plants from taking up P.
When I give my seedlings the cold treatment, purpling of leaves and stems is a sign they have been cold enough.
If it isn't cold, then some other reason why phosphorus uptake is not happening... deficient or maybe unbalanced ferts.
I love this explanation of phosphorus uptake factors, that is posted at Fusion's site:
http://www.selectedplants.com/OrthoPhosphate.htm

Last edited by bower; March 25, 2017 at 05:39 PM. Reason: broken link
bower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 25, 2017   #4
RomanX
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 119
Default

The seedlings are under cool LED lights, so they don't get alot of heat that way.
The ambient temperature of the room is 70 during the day, but 65 or lower at night .

I've checked my seedlings again and the little dwarf seedlings are all green; the biggest seedlings (indeterminates) all have the purplish undersides. The middling seedlings (hybrids with an average mature height of 3 feet) are a mixed lot: some are all green and some have the purplish undersides.
RomanX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 25, 2017   #5
RomanX
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 119
Default

Now I'm REALLY confused!!!
RomanX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 25, 2017   #6
EPawlick
Tomatovillian™
 
EPawlick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada Zone 6b
Posts: 232
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RomanX View Post
My seedlings have nice, green leaves. . . . .but with purplish undersides!

How do I correct this deficiency??

I water from the bottom (they have 1+ sets of true leaves) with a complete water-soluble fertilizer (at half strength, this is ~ 7-17-13, with micro-nutrients included).

I let them "drink up" as much as they will, starting with 20 minutes. . thinking that that amount of time would do. It did, for a day or two: then purplish undersides again! Five days later, I bottom fertilized again, but this time let them "drink up" for 30 minutes. Same result: 1-2 days of normalcy, then back to purplish undersides!

I initially choose this complete fertilizer (Jack's Classic Bloom Bust4er) last year over MG Tomato Fertilizer for my mature tomato plants. . . after resolving nutritional deficiencies while "on" MG; once cured and fertilizers switched, my plants did not develop any more deficiencies. So this year, I compared the chemical analyses of MG Tomato and Jack's Classic: while MG offered higher N, it did not list the 2 crucial micro-nutrients but Jack's Classic did.

I'm wondering now if the seedlings need the higher N . . . more so than the micronutrients.
Can you post a picture?
EPawlick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3, 2017   #7
clkingtx
Tomatovillian™
 
clkingtx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wichita Falls Texas
Posts: 446
Default

I have had purplish seedlings before, and they always grew out of it and did well. If they green up after fertilizer use for 2 or 3 days, I would fertilize every 2 to 3 days. I am fertilizing with a hydroponic nutrient and am using it in nearly every watering. Especially when they are getting established, they need a lot of nutrition.
__________________
Carrie
clkingtx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:27 AM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★