Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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July 2, 2007 | #1 |
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These tomatoes have let me down
If a similar thread has been started please direct me.
So far I’m really disappointed with Chapman. The production is low and the fruit aren’t the best looking. The taste is just OK. Arkansas Traveler is a good looking plant with lots of perfectly round pink fruits. Last year it tasted pretty good. This year it is really plain tasting. Gregoria’s Altia was not as early as I had hoped for. It was my first large tomato but only by a day or so. The taste is just ok. Kalmans Hungarian Pink came in at about the same time and just blows it away. Brandy Boy has let me down. I can’t believe it. The majority of the fruit are catfaced and the plants look like they’ll be among the first to succumb to disease. Lucky Cross will just not do in my yard. Plants started by me and given to my uncle and a coworker are great. This is my second year growing it and I'm just not lucky. What are you disappointments this year? Tim
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July 3, 2007 | #2 |
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I will chime back in later (once I find some true disappointments), but my only current disappointment is that only 3 of my 80 plants are giving me ripe fruit (I am on the cusp of being overwhelmed)....so Kimberly, Sungold and Mexico Midget are doing their best to keep us with some "real" tomatoes. We are eagerly anticipating the heavy hitters, however!
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July 3, 2007 | #3 |
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Its kinda wierd how DTM can be so different considering we live fairly close to each other. Wierder yet is that my uncle was a good 10 days ahead of me on several varieties and he lives about 3 miles away. I assuming we got started a pretty much the same time (mid April)for most. I got some in earlier but it couldn't have helped much. The first 10 days of April was realy cold and it was a fight for survival for the ones I had set out just before the winter decided to come back.
Tim
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July 3, 2007 | #4 |
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Overwhelmed is a good thing I have come to understand. It beats the heck out of being underwhelmed. Good growing and luck with your heavy hitters Craig. With 80 plants you are sure to have some dissapointments, but also have some great results with others. I wish I was at that stage all over again with my 20 something plants.
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July 3, 2007 | #5 |
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Tim, was your source of seeds for Chapman TGS b'c from pictures I've seen online I'm really wondering if it's actually Chapman.
As for the others, for each one that's disappointing you, and I've grown most of them, they did fine for me. And that's the way these threads seem to go. Person A says nay and person B says aye. Just too many darn variables involved.
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July 3, 2007 | #6 |
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BrandyBoy is a winner for me.
I got my Chapman this winter from TGS. It was back ordered and arrived later than the rest of my order. Only two seeds germinated out of the entire pack and one was sickly and died. I have a lone Chapman plant outside now but am a month away from ripe fruit so the jury is still out.
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July 3, 2007 | #7 |
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So far every plant I have is disappointing me. I HAVE NO RIPE TOMATOES!!!!!!
I got two small fruit off Kimberly a week ago and nothing since. But like Craig, the onslaught is coming.
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July 3, 2007 | #8 |
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I don't want to say anything, but the fruitset for Aunt Gerties is on the low side: 4 greenies.
Fingers crossed that the flav is what this ones all about ~ Tom
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July 3, 2007 | #9 |
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I planted 3 PL varieties this year, Brandy Boy, Polish (Ellis) and Mariannas Peace. All are loaded with tomatoes. The largest ones are MP and Polish. There is a MP out there that has to be 1 1/2 pounds (single blossom, not fused). The MP and Polish are showing no signs of disease. The BB is showing some fungal problems on the lower leaves but not enough to be real concerned about it. The MP and Polish are out performing it so far. If they taste as good as I hope they may be my main crop next year. I should know in a week or three.
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July 3, 2007 | #10 |
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Only two,extremely distorted tomatoes and very few blossoms on a large sturdy plant. Our weather here in the PNW has improved the last couple of days and the greenies are popping out everywhere. Last Saturday I saw 2 BWs and I now count 17 with many more blooms. The NAR I got from my wifes friend,a couple of weeks ago, is blooming. Sure glad I listened to Carolyn and and removed one of the plant stems as this NAR is going to be a monster plant for a 17 gallon pot.
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July 3, 2007 | #11 |
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I have been really disappointed in Green Grape. Not realizing that my seed starting thumb had turned green, I started something like 20 seeds, got nearly 100% germination. Had over 100 plants (no grow lights) so of course I lost one here, one there....... it wasn't until I went to put them in the ground I noticed that of all the Green Grapes, only one had survived. In fact, it appears that virtually every plant that I lost was Green Grape.
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July 3, 2007 | #12 |
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It is way too early to comment on this year, but I grew Gregori's Altai twice before. I had the same experience. It was not early either year. And it tasted ok, but not good enough for a tomato that was ripeing with all the other tomatoes.
Remy
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July 3, 2007 | #13 |
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Great stuff and I'm enjoying all your comments. We have decided to head down to the beach house for the next 5 days or so. I don't know if the laptop is coming or not. If not I'll catch up when I get back.
Carolyn, TGS was my source for Chapman. I gave a bunch of plants away this spring and may have to eat crow now. Have a safe 4th of July Tim
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July 3, 2007 | #14 |
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Well-regarded varieties that have been disappointing for me over the last few seasons include:
Earl's Faux Cuostralee Marianna's Peace Omar's Lebanese Fireworks Anna Russian Stump of the World Earl of Edgecomb Azoychka Kimberly Shuntukski Nepal In most cases the problem has been with low production and/or late ripening. My garden is shaded for part of the day, and I suspect a lot of these would perform better in a sunnier spot. |
July 3, 2007 | #15 |
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Hmm, I've had bad luck with Chapman too, though TGS was not my seed source. I've had very spotty germination or headless seedlings and this spring they turned out to be PL. I should have included Chapman in that thread about giving up on a variety. I've tried different seed packets from different seasons but they've all been from the same place. Just not meant to be, I guess.
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