Mystery Tomato id?

[maricybele]

Here are some riper photos. These are flat medium size tomatoes with green sholders and deep rust interiors and bottoms and green inside. Any guesses? The are medium small about 3-4 ounces here they are by Gerties Gold. Thanks so much garden friends.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by maricybele

These are flat medium size tomatoes with green sholders and rust interiors and bottoms and green inside. The whole ones are a little unripe. Any guesses? Thanks so much garden friends.

Nope, no guesses at all. Looks like it's heading to be a so called black variety of one kind or another but there are almost 100 or so different black varieties known of which many have a beefsteak shaped fruit. Is the leaf form RL or PL?

Once a label/name is lost from a variety it's almost impossible to ID it.

How did it become a mystery variety for you?

[maricybele]

Hi Carolyn,

Yes I know impossible, but it's such a lovely tomato I am saving the seed and photographed them. They are
They are 3-4 ounces, about 1.5 inch high and flat at the bottom with green coated seeds. I was thinking if the tomatovillians could take a stab at it,

Purple Calabash and Black from Tula are possibilities because I think I planted both, but I haven't seen them in the garden.

They are late, not quite ripe and the color is throwing me off. Right now green shoulders and rust color exterior.

[Raymondo]

If the choices are Purple Calabash and Black from Tula then I'd vote for the latter because it looks like a 'red' black (yellow skin) rather than a 'pink' black (clear skin) and Purple Calabash is less uniform in shape. Of course, that's a big leap of faith given I've only seen pictures of a few unripe fruit!

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Raymondo

If the choices are Purple Calabash and Black from Tula then I'd vote for the latter because it looks like a 'red' black (yellow skin) rather than a 'pink' black (clear skin) and Purple Calabash is less uniform in shape. Of course, that's a big leap of faith given I've only seen pictures of a few unripe fruit!

Ray, Black from Tula is what I call a pink/black, not a red black and has a clear epidermis, the same as does Cherokee Purple.

The mutation that led to CP becoming Cherokee Chocolate was an epidermis change from clear to yellow epidermis.

I agree that the shape is too regular to be Purple Calabash.

[Raymondo]

Thanks for putting me straight on that one Carolyn. I don't know why, but I thought Black from Tula had yellow skin.

[maricybele]

They are regular leaf plant and the size 3-4 oz 1 1/2 inch tall and being flat on the bottom. Not really yellow but deep greens and blood rust color now that they are ripening off the vine.

[dice]

Black From Tula crossed with an unknown red by some
wandering bee? That would be my guess. If you save seeds
and grow a couple of plants from them next year, and they are
different from each other, then you will know for sure that it
was a cross.