Ivory Pear and Banani?

[matermaniac]

I purchased seeds from trade winds fruit for Ivory Pear and Banani at the end of last season. I've had little to no life from the seeds. The two seedlings that did come up for ivory pear both withered and died within days. Those are two of the three passings i've had so far within the seedlings.

They no longer offer these seeds online and I see no reference to them in tatianas listing. I've also had no response to an e-mail I sent them about the seeds.

Does anyone know if they go by another name or maybe the names were simply a marketing attempt? And if there is another place to find them?

Thanks,
MM

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by matermaniac

I purchased seeds from trade winds fruit for Ivory Pear and Banani at the end of last season. I've had little to no life from the seeds. The two seedlings that did come up for ivory pear both withered and died within days. Those are two of the three passings i've had so far within the seedlings.

They no longer offer these seeds online and I see no reference to them in tatianas listing. I've also had no response to an e-mail I sent them about the seeds.

Does anyone know if they go by another name or maybe the names were simply a marketing attempt? And if there is another place to find them?

Thanks,
MM

Ivory Pear is listed by two folks in the 2010 SSE Yearbook, but I couldn't find Banani. Do you remember what color it's supposed to be and whether it's a cherry or not, which makes searching the tomato section of the Yearbook easier to do.

http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/L/Lycop...sicum_Banani_/

Now that's weird. I googled Banani, link above, only to find out it's a common name that means, ahem, tomato. I don't know where it just means "tomato", but that's what the above link says.

[matermaniac]

Thanks Carolyn. I had hoped you would see this and may be able to shed some light on this.

Here's what I was able to find from google. A picture is in the attached word doc file.


A fairly rare yellow paste-like tomato bearing elongated fruit that ripen to a bright yellow. Originally hailing from Russia, the fruits hav good flavor and are beautiful when sliced. Meaty, minimal seeds. Plants remain moderately compact and bear astonishingly heavily. 70-80 days. #1969

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by matermaniac

Thanks Carolyn. I had hoped you would see this and may be able to shed some light on this.

Here's what I was able to find from google. A picture is in the attached word doc file.


A fairly rare yellow paste-like tomato bearing elongated fruit that ripen to a bright yellow. Originally hailing from Russia, the fruits hav good flavor and are beautiful when sliced. Meaty, minimal seeds. Plants remain moderately compact and bear astonishingly heavily. 70-80 days. #1969

Interesting.

When I get a chance, translate remember, I'll take a look in the yellow/orange section of the current SSE YEarbook b'c both Tania and Andrey list many varieties in the Yearbook and do so in the Russian language and I don't know if this variety is already in the Russian Language, or not.

Just curious, but what's the 1969 number at the end of the blurb and this MS Word document comes from where?

[matermaniac]

I put the word doc together earlier just in case the google search I did couldn't be repeated. But here's the link I was able to find.

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/tomato_seeds.htm

The #1969 is the stock number.

[matermaniac]

Life springs yet again in both banani and ivory pear. Came home from work to find some seed had sprouted.

Let's hope for the best this time.

[matermaniac]

Carolyn,
I was wondering if you had found a chance to unravel these tomatoes a little further.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by matermaniac

Carolyn,
I was wondering if you had found a chance to unravel these tomatoes a little further.

With your post above about Banini I think that was the background you were looking for.

As to the Ivory Pear one, there are two folks who list it in the 2010 Yearbook and one gives no source at all and the other says he got his seeds from________________ in LA and no history was given.

Other than calling the last person, whom I know and he doesn't have a computer, and asking him the contact info for the person in Lousisiana I'm not sure that I can do much more and I'm not even sure that calling the person in LA would be a help b'c I know he also sent seeds of White Zebra to my friend, and it turned out that someone had renamed that variety from the original name that Brad Gates at Wild Boar Farms had given it.

White Zebra is still being offered with that name in the 2010 Yearbook and all but one person got their seeds from my friend who got them from the person in LA. So maybe it was the LA person who changed the name

Gets complicated, doesn't it.

[carolyn137]

OK, I was just at Amishland Seeds checking out something for someone and I assure you I wasn't there voluntarily, but she's listing Ivory Pear and I recognized the initials of the person she got it from and he's the same source that the one SSE person got it from in LA as I mentioed above.

And since I know that this same person in Lousiana also changed the name of one of Brand Gates varieties to White Zebra and since I know he apparently has been sending seeds to Tradewinds where you first heard about it I'd have a healthy suspicion about any variety that was sourced from him.

[matermaniac]

so, aversion is the best policy regarding this variety and/or person?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by matermaniac

so, aversion is the best policy regarding this variety and/or person?

No, that's not what I'm saying.

If you want to try Ivory Pear go ahead and order the seeds if you want to and if you like what they turn out to be, then fine.

What I'm saying is that I doubt that there will be a way of knowing any specific history about the variety and no way of knowing if it was possibly renamed from some other variety.

Those are possibilities but what's most inmportant is whether or not you like the variety. And there are lots of varieties where no background information is available. What's a bit different in this situation is that the person who sent the seeds to the SSE member as well as Amishland is already known to have changed a variety name at least once before.

[matermaniac]

Thank you Carolyn making everything clear about these two plants. I'll put away the pitchfork and torch and call off the townspeople.