Why not Orange as top winners 4 flavor?

beefyboy · September 13, 2010

Curious to know why Orange types are never picked as favorites here on tomatoville??

PaulF · September 13, 2010

Kellogg's Breakfast, and its mate, KBX have often been named as favorite tomatoes. I plant one or the other every year.

beefyboy · September 13, 2010

Should have said it differently! lol ok how is this? they never make it as #1 tomato on peoples lists.

**carolyn137** · September 13, 2010

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Originally Posted by beefyboy

Should have said it differently! lol ok how is this? they never make it as #1 tomato on peoples lists.

Well, people's tastes differ and different folks grow different orange varieties all the time and not every growout will show the taste potential of a varity based on where it's grown and what the weather is in any given season.

I have never posted a list of taste favorites b'c I know that for every one that I might rate highly someone else will say it's a spitter for them.

And I suppose that's the way it should be.

beefyboy · September 13, 2010

So what are you really saying Carolyn?? lol you have an orange as #1 kept a secret?

**Lee** · September 13, 2010

Actually, I see Sungold as a consistent top 3 and even #1 favorite tomato.
Of course if you're looking for indeterminate favorites, the
KB and KBX varieties are always listed in the top 10 by some
folks. I like Orange Heirloom in my top 10 or so....

Lee

BigdaddyJ · September 13, 2010

I love KBX but yes it's never been #1 in my taste trials but certainly top 5 to 10. For many years Sun Gold is the only cherry I grow. I bet Sun Gold would win a lot of top tasting cherry polls...

piegirl · September 13, 2010

One of the big winners at this year's Midwest Tomato Fest was PaulF's Orange Russian #117 - that was a fantastic tomato and Kellogg's is always #1 or #2 - generally we have 5-6 tied for #1 and #2. Piegirl

**carolyn137** · September 13, 2010

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Originally Posted by piegirl

One of the big winners at this year's Midwest Tomato Fest was PaulF's Orange Russian #117 - that was a fantastic tomato and Kellogg's is always #1 or #2 - generally we have 5-6 tied for #1 and #2. Piegirl

But, but, Orange Russian #117 isn't an orange variety, it's a typiucal gold/red bicolor although a heart.

Jeff Dawson crossed Russian #117m wgucg us a red double heart with Geirgia Streak, a gold/re bicolor beefsteak and selected for a heart form which he named Orange Russian # 117. I should grow it again b'c I wasn't all that impressed the first time I grew it.

**carolyn137** · September 13, 2010

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Originally Posted by beefyboy

So what are you really saying Carolyn?? lol you have an orange as #1 kept a secret?

I thought what I said was what I really did say, meaning no, I have no secret orange variety.

habitat_gardener · September 14, 2010

I've been thinking about orange tomatoes lately. It seems of the ones I've grown, they're either wonderful or blah (in taste and/or production), nothing in-between.

One of my favorites this year is an orange: Tobolsk. It's the most productive of my best-tasting ones and the best-tasting of the most productive ones, out of about 16 of my "first string" -- I have about 20 more late-planted tomatoes that are just starting to ripen.

I'm also growing Sweet Horizon, which had such a mealy texture I didn't want to eat them, so I cooked them and they're wonderful as a cooked tomato.

A few years ago, one of my favorites was Orange Strawberry.

b54red · September 14, 2010

This was my first year growing KBX and I absolutely loved it. I still want a tomato with a little more zip for my number one; but it would be in my top 5 for beefsteaks every time if it tastes as good every year as it did this year.
It was also my first year growing Sungold hybrid and it was my favorite cherry ever.

JoAnne · September 14, 2010

I love the oranges - love the bright sunny taste! So far Persimmon has been my favorite and Nebraska Wedding has done very well for me this year. Elbe is another very nice one that is usually overlooked. Every time I plant KBX the seed doesn't germinate (tried a variety of sources), so I am still waiting to try that one.

heirloomdaddy · September 16, 2010

Persimmon is absolutely delicious. I'll be shocked if I like KB or KBX as much.

Fusion_power · September 17, 2010

Heirloomdaddy, You won't know until you grow it. I can tell you from experience that no other large orange tomato is as good as KBX or KB. That includes persimmon, Jubilee, Amana Orange, Orangina, Orawalo, and any other oranges you can think of.

But the question is whether there is a #1 large orange tomato. I'll answer that by saying that for complexity and range of flavor, there are several red or pink varieties that are IMO significantly better than any of the large oranges. However, KBX does not cause me to get blisters in my mouth. I can eat tons of them with little or no stomach upset. That is the biggest reason I grow them. They taste very good and they don't cause problems. Tons of my customers reach the same conclusion.

DarJones

September 13, 2010	#6
Lee Tomatopalooza™ Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC-Zone 7 Posts: 2,188	Actually, I see Sungold as a consistent top 3 and even #1 favorite tomato. Of course if you're looking for indeterminate favorites, the KB and KBX varieties are always listed in the top 10 by some folks. I like Orange Heirloom in my top 10 or so.... Lee __________________ Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad. Cuostralee - The best thing on sliced bread.

September 13, 2010	#7
BigdaddyJ Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Zone7 Delaware Posts: 399	I love KBX but yes it's never been #1 in my taste trials but certainly top 5 to 10. For many years Sun Gold is the only cherry I grow. I bet Sun Gold would win a lot of top tasting cherry polls... __________________ Farmer at Heart

September 13, 2010	#1
beefyboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pt. Charlotte fl Posts: 330	Why not Orange as top winners 4 flavor? Curious to know why Orange types are never picked as favorites here on tomatoville??

September 13, 2010	#2
PaulF Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brownville, Ne Posts: 3,296	Kellogg's Breakfast, and its mate, KBX have often been named as favorite tomatoes. I plant one or the other every year. __________________ there's two things money can't buy; true love and home grown tomatoes.

September 13, 2010	#8
piegirl Tomatovillian™ Honoree Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 791	One of the big winners at this year's Midwest Tomato Fest was PaulF's Orange Russian #117 - that was a fantastic tomato and Kellogg's is always #1 or #2 - generally we have 5-6 tied for #1 and #2. Piegirl

September 14, 2010	#11
habitat_gardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Central Valley Posts: 2,543	I've been thinking about orange tomatoes lately. It seems of the ones I've grown, they're either wonderful or blah (in taste and/or production), nothing in-between. One of my favorites this year is an orange: Tobolsk. It's the most productive of my best-tasting ones and the best-tasting of the most productive ones, out of about 16 of my "first string" -- I have about 20 more late-planted tomatoes that are just starting to ripen. I'm also growing Sweet Horizon, which had such a mealy texture I didn't want to eat them, so I cooked them and they're wonderful as a cooked tomato. A few years ago, one of my favorites was Orange Strawberry.

September 14, 2010	#12
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	This was my first year growing KBX and I absolutely loved it. I still want a tomato with a little more zip for my number one; but it would be in my top 5 for beefsteaks every time if it tastes as good every year as it did this year. It was also my first year growing Sungold hybrid and it was my favorite cherry ever.

September 14, 2010	#13
JoAnne Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 69	I love the oranges - love the bright sunny taste! So far Persimmon has been my favorite and Nebraska Wedding has done very well for me this year. Elbe is another very nice one that is usually overlooked. Every time I plant KBX the seed doesn't germinate (tried a variety of sources), so I am still waiting to try that one.

September 16, 2010	#14
heirloomdaddy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles Z10 Posts: 291	Persimmon is absolutely delicious. I'll be shocked if I like KB or KBX as much.

September 17, 2010	#15
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	Heirloomdaddy, You won't know until you grow it. I can tell you from experience that no other large orange tomato is as good as KBX or KB. That includes persimmon, Jubilee, Amana Orange, Orangina, Orawalo, and any other oranges you can think of. But the question is whether there is a #1 large orange tomato. I'll answer that by saying that for complexity and range of flavor, there are several red or pink varieties that are IMO significantly better than any of the large oranges. However, KBX does not cause me to get blisters in my mouth. I can eat tons of them with little or no stomach upset. That is the biggest reason I grow them. They taste very good and they don't cause problems. Tons of my customers reach the same conclusion. DarJones