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July 12, 2006 | #1 |
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Bicolor PL varieties
Besides West Virginia Straw and Hillbilly Potato Leaf,what other bicolor PL's are out there.
I have seeds of many other monocolor PL's to trade for bicolor PL varieties. PM me with your monocolor needs for a trade for your bicolor types. Best regards, Spudleaf Willie |
July 12, 2006 | #2 |
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Little Lucky, Lucky Cross, and Little Lucky Heart are the other potato leaf bicolors that I am aware of. I was not aware that West Virginia Straw was a bicolor (thought it was a large PL pink).
Craig
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July 12, 2006 | #3 |
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Where does one get Little lucky Heart? The others Little Lucky and Lucky Cross are 2 of my FAVORITES!!-Rena
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July 12, 2006 | #4 |
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I'm also interested in hearing what other bi-color PL plants there are out there. I grew one quite by accident one year. It wasn't a mislabeling on my part, because at the time, I had not purchased seeds for any bi-color varieties. It was supposed to be Brandywine OTV, and I thought it was until it fruited. Unfortunately, I kept waiting for fruit to turn red, and many of them rotted on the vine before I realized that I had a bi-color. Once I learned how to tell when they were ripe, they were quite good. It was very late and bore a heavy crop of large (1lb+) tomatoes that were very good. I still have some of those seeds somewhere around my house. I wish I knew what it was, because I liked it. I hate that I let so many of them go to waste early on by mistake.
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July 12, 2006 | #5 |
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Here is the thread on Oaxacan Jewel wherein a PL was noted; unfortunately decided to hold off on my grow out this year ......
http://www.tomatoville.com/viewtopic...ighlight=jewel
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July 12, 2006 | #6 |
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What appears to be happening is that due to accidental crossing, potato leaf "versions" of varieties are starting to show up. They really should be given different names to avoid confusion, because they are strictly different varieties. Also, they should be grown out in sufficient quantity to check if they are crosses or mix ups. Oaxacan Jewel and Hillbilly are both regular leaf varieties in which potato leaf "versions" are now out there - perhaps!
As to the bicolor showing up in OTV Brandywine, it is very likely that it is the results of some continued instability in the variety; it didn't originate all that long ago.
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July 12, 2006 | #7 |
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Bicolor PL's
Craig,
You are right. West Virginia Straw is a pink, not bicolor as I had first stated. I should have checked my "spudleaf database" first instead of relying on my 68 year old memory. Sorry about the mistake. Regards, Bill |
July 12, 2006 | #8 |
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As to the bicolor showing up in OTV Brandywine, it is very likely that it is the results of some continued instability in the variety; it didn't originate all that long ago.
Craig, it was stable at the F5 over 10 years ago now, and in that time period no one has gotten anything other than what they should for OTV Brandywine, at least to my knowledge posting in as many places as I've posted in the last 10 years. So I tend to think that any bicolor is the result of cross pollination somewhere along the line that resulted in the seeds Fert used. Fert, do you remember the source of your seeds for OTV?
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I'm pretty sure (95%) that I got those seeds from Tomato Growers Supply. If you recall, I posted about it on Gardenweb, and one other person who had gotten Brandywine OTV seeds from them that year also had a bi-color. You were kind enough to send me seeds for the true BW OTV, but alas, the dreaded wilt took out my plant before it fruited. I seem doomed to never get to try this variety. Of course, I also had similar bad luck with Earl's Faux until this year. So maybe eventually. Actually at the time it happened, we also discussed the possibility that the seed packet was mislabeled at the company, and that perhaps I had gotten seeds for some other variety they offer by mistake. I may have to grow out some more of those seeds next year and see if I get a bi-color again. Whatever it was, the flavor was excellent. It was also a year with very heavy rainfall. I know the bi-color varieties can vary a lot from year to year, but I would have thought it should have been a bad year for them. I just hate that I have no way to know for sure, because it was quite flavorful, one of the best I grew that year. I guess I could always save seeds and enjoy without knowing exactly what I have, (like Earl did with his Faux Red BW). I've intentionally held onto the remaining seeds in that packet, with that in mind. There are just so many varieties I've yet to try, and not time or space for a large garden. So I put it on hold for a couple of years. Probably should plant again soon while the seeds are still viable though.
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