is this one a goner?

navajoah · July 4, 2011

not sure what happened to this one but all my others are happy and healthy. any idea what this is, and how I can treat it, or should I cut my losses and pull it to avoid losing any others...thanks!!!

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[edit] sorry this initial post was so rushed, i've got two little girls to take care of and i had to post something quick to see if anyone might know as I sifted through a lot of the disease/pest ID websites and I still have no clue what is going on with this plant, but oh man is it hurting. if anyone cares, it is a earls faux plant and was very strong, then one leaf showed symptoms then another, now its almost the entire plant and I do not see much new growth on it. anyways, I apologize about the cry for help, I shouldnt be so lazy and should try and continue assessing what it may be by more research. thanks!

dice · July 8, 2011

Earl's is prone to a condition where it starts losing foliage
from the bottom of the plant up, about when fruit are developing.
I have never seen it quite that bad, though, so your plant may
have some other issue.

navajoah · July 12, 2011

thanks Dice - not sure what is going on with this one. all my other 15 plants are doing great and they share the same automated irrigation system, its just this one that is looking terrible. oh well, 1/16 loss isn't too bad.

**nctomatoman** · July 12, 2011

A particularly nasty attack of Septoria, I wonder?

Gardenkeep · July 12, 2011

Leave it alone...

bcday · July 12, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by navajoah

they share the same automated irrigation system

Maybe this one isn't getting its share of the water?

navajoah · July 12, 2011

thanks for more advice everyone. I know it is getting water as the soil is moist using the finger test and the second plant that shares the same raised bed with this one is doing great (Sweet Carneros Pink). I checked for the spots associated with septoria or early blight and I just don't see the concentric rings or black circles. Somehow the two tomatoes on this plant are still growing though. I just don't want this plant to "infect" any others, but, I also don't want to risk losing it if it somehow rebounds (have heard great things about Earls Faux and am bummed we might lose it). I cooked up a batch of compost tea and applied it to the leaves and soil, not sure if this will help, but at this point, it couldn't hurt.

Gardenkeep · July 12, 2011

When in doubt do no harm...
Gardening is like sailing.
The wind that fills your sail might take weeks to find you!

dice · July 12, 2011

Earl's Faux does have great flavor. Here is a tomato disease identification
guide from Colorado State University:
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/garden/02949.html

travis · July 12, 2011

Is Earl's Faux a particularly heavy feeder compared to the other varieties Navjo mentioned? It may be more like a micronutrient issue than a disease, especially if the other plants in close proximity are not suffering the same symptoms.

dice · July 13, 2011

Earl's Faux is about like a Brandywine with average fruit size a little
smaller, maybe 12 oz. Here is a picture, courtesy of Earl, from a
very healthy plant in what was probably an excellent summer for
weather:
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?p=158187

Would that be a heavy feeder? I do not know. Here is a URL with
pictures of tomato plants with mineral deficiencies:
http://5e.plantphys.net/article.php?ch=5&id=289
(Zinc deficiency is rare. It may look like that, but I would bet that
is not the problem. Most people add about the same fertilizer per
plant, so potassium deficiency is not very likely either.)

navajoah · July 13, 2011

wow - that zinc deficiency does look the most similar. I actually hadn't added any fertilizer until last week (also did a compost tea foliar spray and watering with the tea as well). maybe it was just starving for nutrients? maybe it will rebound after all - that would be cool. I will keep a close eye on it and continue to baby it and hope it recovers. thanks again for replying and offering your thoughts on this one - I really appreciate it!!!

dice · July 14, 2011

Unless the dirt under that one plant is very different in some way
than the rest of the garden, I would guess that it is either infected
with something or has some kind of root damage. Fusarium rarely
affects just one plant. It spreads through the soil and affects all of the
plants with no tolerance for it. An insect can infect just one plant
with something, though. I have had single plants in a row be infected
with some virus from an insect that was only in the area for a week
or two during the season.

navajoah · August 17, 2011

to follow up about this plant and its disease - I went away for a few weeks and upon return found this plant essentially "burned" to the ground - sure enough it was a goner. I did get a few small tomatoes from it though that were actually really tasty.

FILMNET · August 17, 2011

Happens to me this year now also, so much rain here i haven't watered any plants in the ground, only pots for 30 days. Any weak plants of the 17 I have are suffering now with yellow leafs or nasty disease's.

July 4, 2011	#1
navajoah Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 22	is this one a goner? not sure what happened to this one but all my others are happy and healthy. any idea what this is, and how I can treat it, or should I cut my losses and pull it to avoid losing any others...thanks!!! tomato_ill_1.JPG tomato_ill_2.JPG [edit] sorry this initial post was so rushed, i've got two little girls to take care of and i had to post something quick to see if anyone might know as I sifted through a lot of the disease/pest ID websites and I still have no clue what is going on with this plant, but oh man is it hurting. if anyone cares, it is a earls faux plant and was very strong, then one leaf showed symptoms then another, now its almost the entire plant and I do not see much new growth on it. anyways, I apologize about the cry for help, I shouldnt be so lazy and should try and continue assessing what it may be by more research. thanks! Last edited by navajoah; July 6, 2011 at 12:01 AM.

July 8, 2011	#2
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Earl's is prone to a condition where it starts losing foliage from the bottom of the plant up, about when fruit are developing. I have never seen it quite that bad, though, so your plant may have some other issue. __________________ -- alias

July 12, 2011	#4
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	A particularly nasty attack of Septoria, I wonder? __________________ Craig

July 12, 2011	#9
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Earl's Faux does have great flavor. Here is a tomato disease identification guide from Colorado State University: http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/garden/02949.html __________________ -- alias

July 13, 2011	#11
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Earl's Faux is about like a Brandywine with average fruit size a little smaller, maybe 12 oz. Here is a picture, courtesy of Earl, from a very healthy plant in what was probably an excellent summer for weather: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?p=158187 Would that be a heavy feeder? I do not know. Here is a URL with pictures of tomato plants with mineral deficiencies: http://5e.plantphys.net/article.php?ch=5&id=289 (Zinc deficiency is rare. It may look like that, but I would bet that is not the problem. Most people add about the same fertilizer per plant, so potassium deficiency is not very likely either.) __________________ -- alias

July 12, 2011	#5
Gardenkeep Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SWMO Posts: 20	Leave it alone...

July 12, 2011	#10
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	Is Earl's Faux a particularly heavy feeder compared to the other varieties Navjo mentioned? It may be more like a micronutrient issue than a disease, especially if the other plants in close proximity are not suffering the same symptoms.

July 14, 2011	#13
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Unless the dirt under that one plant is very different in some way than the rest of the garden, I would guess that it is either infected with something or has some kind of root damage. Fusarium rarely affects just one plant. It spreads through the soil and affects all of the plants with no tolerance for it. An insect can infect just one plant with something, though. I have had single plants in a row be infected with some virus from an insect that was only in the area for a week or two during the season. __________________ -- alias

August 17, 2011	#14
navajoah Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 22	to follow up about this plant and its disease - I went away for a few weeks and upon return found this plant essentially "burned" to the ground - sure enough it was a goner. I did get a few small tomatoes from it though that were actually really tasty.

August 17, 2011	#15
FILMNET Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,803	Happens to me this year now also, so much rain here i haven't watered any plants in the ground, only pots for 30 days. Any weak plants of the 17 I have are suffering now with yellow leafs or nasty disease's.