Tomato varieties you plan to drop for 2013 - Page 2

gourmetgardener · September 11, 2012

I'm dropping Indigo Rose and Arbsason. Indigo Rose didn't have anything truly outstanding about it, and my customers noticed. Arbason fruit size was small, and also had some cracking issues, albeit minor - it was no match for Geronimo or Torero.

pinklady5 · September 11, 2012

Dropping Isis Candy. Grew correct with the starburst pattern on the bottom but it literally had no taste. Black Cherry and Sungold will stay.

stonysoilseeds · September 11, 2012

i will also drop orange bannana but a new variety i grew this yr that i like alot is jaunne flamee

gixxerific · September 11, 2012

Too many to mention, but there will be more dark ones which somehow got missed this year. I am also going to be planting more dwarfs. A lot more "F" series tomatoes as well.

ChrisK · September 11, 2012

Speckled Roman. Pretty but not worth the space with constant BER.

Father'sDaughter · September 11, 2012

Pink Honey. Yes, it was sweet, yes, it was early, and yes, it pumped out a ton of fruit all season. I've come to accept that sweet and/or mild flavored tomatoes just don't do it for me.

Sorrento, for the same reason as Pink Honey. Although my son declared it his favorite, so if he doesn't do his own garden next year at his new house, I may grow one plant again for him.

Rocky and San Marzano Redorta. While the grew true to type, production was dismal compared to the other canners/pastes growing alongside them.

cecilsgarden1958 · September 12, 2012

Well I mostly grow hybrids but plan on dropping (permanately) Big Girl and Jet Star from future plantings. They just don't get any size or production of note for me. Supersonic has redeemed itself (for now), but will skip it next year.

Also, plan on dropping Hill Top for next year, but will grow it again. It is one of the best OPs I have ever grown for my area and desires.

Will probably grow all hybrids next year except a chery type I received in mail from a member here. Not sure if it's an F2, 3 or 4 etc, but I received some samples and I think I'll give it a try.

Supposed to be hot and dry again in my area next year. Oh boy

CECIL

cecilsgarden1958 · September 12, 2012

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Originally Posted by Father'sDaughter

Pink Honey. Yes, it was sweet, yes, it was early, and yes, it pumped out a ton of fruit all season. I've come to accept that sweet and/or mild flavored tomatoes just don't do it for me....................

What tomato is Pink Honey??? Tomatofest??

CECIL

Longlake · September 12, 2012

I tried so many new varieties this year that there were LOTS of keepers...and many that won't be making a return appearance (with the same seed source, anyhow). Those that got the axe?
Oregon Spring - Mealy and little flavor
Fourth of July OP - Good, but small and not early enough to retain a spot
Momotaro - So-so, nothing special
Grandeur - Almost crunchy
Season Starter OP - Another hard one
Djena Lee's GG - Almost hollow? Strange.
Crnkovic Yugoslavian - Disease issues from the get-go
Carbon - Bad seed as the fruit was pink and bland (but prolific)
Tommy Toes

The Standout Keepers?
Vorlon - Very good and early, better disease resistance than BK or BfT
JDs Spec C - Productive and tasty
Brandywine Sudduth's - Must've had exactly the right weather, LOTS of perfect fruit
Pink Berkeley Tie Dye - This one rocks!
Eva Purple Ball - Pumped out a ton of fruit

habitat_gardener · September 12, 2012

Won't be invited back--

The only hybrid I grew this year, Jetsetter F1: it has a nice sweet flavor, but very thick skin and continuing problems with BER, still. Also, it stopped producing for most of August, and it wasn't because of high temps.

Kellogg's Breakfast: it's a pretty color, but bland in comparison to other tomatoes I'm growing this year.

Belize Pink Heart: very sweet, but not enough of a standout flavor, and doesn't keep very long.

Jaune Flamme: productive, but I didn't love it.

Black Prince: another one about the same size as Jaune Flamme. It was the earliest one, with an ok flavor, but it's been splitting a bit lately (with no rain), and I didn't love it.

On the fence--

Thessaloniki: a more complex flavor than Jetsetter or Belize, but it, too, has been having minor BER issues all season.

Palo Alto: a very productive large red, but it produces them all at once. I picked 8 of them yesterday, averaging 10 oz. each.

Black Plum: tasty, and usually a reliable producer, but this year's plant seems wispier and less healthy than usual, and it hasn't been as productive as I remembered.

Favorites this year--

Croatia Joanna YMCA: the top tomato this year and last. Wonderful flavor. Not hugely productive, but worth waiting for. The best tomato-sandwich tomato ever.

Tommy Toe: still my favorite cherry tomato; could be my favorite tomato, period. Always a wonderful flavor, and just productive enough, not crazy productive like others I've grown.

Pruden's Purple: Another great tomato-sandwich slicer.

Striped German: luscious and fruity. My biggest tomatoes this year! But I'm getting them all at once, so I'm having to eat more than one a day. Somehow I'm managing.

Pink Vernissage: one of those crazy productive large cherries. It's ok but wasn't a favorite until I dried it. It has the most wonderful complex flavor dried, like a good pizza sauce. Now I'm sorry I used so many of these for salsa instead of pulling out the dehydrator earlier.

Father'sDaughter · September 12, 2012

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Originally Posted by cecilsgarden1958

What tomato is Pink Honey??? Tomatofest??

CECIL

I got it from Mike at Ohio Heirloom Seeds. If you search on here for Siberian Pink Honey, you'll find a whole thread on it.

FarmerShawn · September 12, 2012

Azoychka won't land in my garden again - tasteless. I also grew Tigrovy, Tigerella, and Tiger Tom, and I could not tell the fruit apart, nor did I particularly like the flavor or texture - pure water and seeds in a pretty skin. And I grew several determinates this year and won't bother again, with a few exceptions - pearly pink orange worked nicely, and extreme bush was prolific in a small space. I might give russo sicilian togetta another try, to see if I can get it through disease pressure in a timely fashion.
And, although I like a few green when ripe varieties, I won't grow many. They don't sell well at market, and I don't know what to do with the extras - sauce and juice made from them just looks too weird, and the dehydrated ones, while OK, aren't anything special, and again, appearance is just a bit off-putting.

Cole_Robbie · September 12, 2012

I am seeing that Container's Choice is also being offered in different colors than the red that I grew. If there was a worst-tasting tomato contest, I would enter that thing, and no one else would have a chance.

nancyruhl · September 13, 2012

Well, I've been put on notice that I can only grow half of the varieties I did this season for next year. Cherries not invited back are Medovaya Kapla, Vince P1 and Violet Jasper, all for flavor reasons. 2 surprising good varieties I will have back are Mirabelle Blanche, a tasty and very pretty pastel pink, and Prize of the Trials, a tasty orange cherry.

Several of the Wild Boar Farms varieties won't be back either. Not crazy about any of the "Boars", Trentons Tiger was pretty but dry, and Micheal Pollan just wasn't worth replanting. Did really like Sweet Carneros Pink, Beauty Queen, Brad's Black Heart, and Blonde Boar.

In the pink category, Brandywine from Croatia, Ferris Wheel, Meme Beauce won't be back.
Unsure of which of the black varieties I will regrow. Of the bicolors, the only thing I know for sure is that Hawaiian Pineapple will be back. For the greenies, I think Malakhitovaya Shultka and Speers Tennessee Green are gone due to extreme lateness or low productivity.

Red saladette size, I just don't have that much use for. That means Czech Bush, Siberian, Yamal and Zleovo are gone and Magyar Piros Boker and Matina (a nice surprise in the early but flavorful category) are coming back.

Larger reds, I have eliminated Gianinnies Red Plum, Ludmillas Red Plum, Sherrill, Tamu Joy, and Zogola. All the hearts, both pink and red, were outstanding for me this year, so those will be tough choices. I also loved all the pastes I grew.

By my count, I still need to eliminate 80 more varieties. Egad.

Elliot · September 13, 2012

It may not be fair to cross varieties off of the 2013 list because they did not do well this year. This was a very unusual season with record breaking heat for long periods of time. None of mine did well. I did however do somewhat well (c+) with sweet 100's and red grape. I did not do well with miracle sweet or carolina gold. In past summers, these were my best plants.

September 12, 2012	#22
cecilsgarden1958 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: swPA Posts: 629	Well I mostly grow hybrids but plan on dropping (permanately) Big Girl and Jet Star from future plantings. They just don't get any size or production of note for me. Supersonic has redeemed itself (for now), but will skip it next year. Also, plan on dropping Hill Top for next year, but will grow it again. It is one of the best OPs I have ever grown for my area and desires. Will probably grow all hybrids next year except a chery type I received in mail from a member here. Not sure if it's an F2, 3 or 4 etc, but I received some samples and I think I'll give it a try. Supposed to be hot and dry again in my area next year. Oh boy CECIL __________________ Hybrids Rule, Heirlooms Drool!

September 12, 2012	#24
Longlake Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: MN Posts: 142	I tried so many new varieties this year that there were LOTS of keepers...and many that won't be making a return appearance (with the same seed source, anyhow). Those that got the axe? Oregon Spring - Mealy and little flavor Fourth of July OP - Good, but small and not early enough to retain a spot Momotaro - So-so, nothing special Grandeur - Almost crunchy Season Starter OP - Another hard one Djena Lee's GG - Almost hollow? Strange. Crnkovic Yugoslavian - Disease issues from the get-go Carbon - Bad seed as the fruit was pink and bland (but prolific) Tommy Toes The Standout Keepers? Vorlon - Very good and early, better disease resistance than BK or BfT JDs Spec C - Productive and tasty Brandywine Sudduth's - Must've had exactly the right weather, LOTS of perfect fruit Pink Berkeley Tie Dye - This one rocks! Eva Purple Ball - Pumped out a ton of fruit __________________ My garden is like a teenager - One minute I'm basking in it's glow and the next I'm cursing it's attitude and headstrong independence.

September 12, 2012	#27
FarmerShawn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,001	Azoychka won't land in my garden again - tasteless. I also grew Tigrovy, Tigerella, and Tiger Tom, and I could not tell the fruit apart, nor did I particularly like the flavor or texture - pure water and seeds in a pretty skin. And I grew several determinates this year and won't bother again, with a few exceptions - pearly pink orange worked nicely, and extreme bush was prolific in a small space. I might give russo sicilian togetta another try, to see if I can get it through disease pressure in a timely fashion. And, although I like a few green when ripe varieties, I won't grow many. They don't sell well at market, and I don't know what to do with the extras - sauce and juice made from them just looks too weird, and the dehydrated ones, while OK, aren't anything special, and again, appearance is just a bit off-putting. __________________ "Red meat is NOT bad for you. Now blue-green meat, THAT'S bad for you!" -- Tommy Smothers

September 11, 2012	#16
gourmetgardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Canada (Zone 6b) Posts: 119	I'm dropping Indigo Rose and Arbsason. Indigo Rose didn't have anything truly outstanding about it, and my customers noticed. Arbason fruit size was small, and also had some cracking issues, albeit minor - it was no match for Geronimo or Torero.

September 11, 2012	#17
pinklady5 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central NJ Posts: 234	Dropping Isis Candy. Grew correct with the starburst pattern on the bottom but it literally had no taste. Black Cherry and Sungold will stay.

September 11, 2012	#18
stonysoilseeds Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: cincinnatus, new york Posts: 341	i will also drop orange bannana but a new variety i grew this yr that i like alot is jaunne flamee

September 11, 2012	#19
gixxerific Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: in the gutter, with my mouth Posts: 123	Too many to mention, but there will be more dark ones which somehow got missed this year. I am also going to be planting more dwarfs. A lot more "F" series tomatoes as well.

September 11, 2012	#20
ChrisK Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,448	Speckled Roman. Pretty but not worth the space with constant BER.

September 11, 2012	#21
Father'sDaughter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: MA/NH Border Posts: 4,919	Pink Honey. Yes, it was sweet, yes, it was early, and yes, it pumped out a ton of fruit all season. I've come to accept that sweet and/or mild flavored tomatoes just don't do it for me. Sorrento, for the same reason as Pink Honey. Although my son declared it his favorite, so if he doesn't do his own garden next year at his new house, I may grow one plant again for him. Rocky and San Marzano Redorta. While the grew true to type, production was dismal compared to the other canners/pastes growing alongside them.

September 12, 2012	#25
habitat_gardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Central Valley Posts: 2,543	Won't be invited back-- The only hybrid I grew this year, Jetsetter F1: it has a nice sweet flavor, but very thick skin and continuing problems with BER, still. Also, it stopped producing for most of August, and it wasn't because of high temps. Kellogg's Breakfast: it's a pretty color, but bland in comparison to other tomatoes I'm growing this year. Belize Pink Heart: very sweet, but not enough of a standout flavor, and doesn't keep very long. Jaune Flamme: productive, but I didn't love it. Black Prince: another one about the same size as Jaune Flamme. It was the earliest one, with an ok flavor, but it's been splitting a bit lately (with no rain), and I didn't love it. On the fence-- Thessaloniki: a more complex flavor than Jetsetter or Belize, but it, too, has been having minor BER issues all season. Palo Alto: a very productive large red, but it produces them all at once. I picked 8 of them yesterday, averaging 10 oz. each. Black Plum: tasty, and usually a reliable producer, but this year's plant seems wispier and less healthy than usual, and it hasn't been as productive as I remembered. Favorites this year-- Croatia Joanna YMCA: the top tomato this year and last. Wonderful flavor. Not hugely productive, but worth waiting for. The best tomato-sandwich tomato ever. Tommy Toe: still my favorite cherry tomato; could be my favorite tomato, period. Always a wonderful flavor, and just productive enough, not crazy productive like others I've grown. Pruden's Purple: Another great tomato-sandwich slicer. Striped German: luscious and fruity. My biggest tomatoes this year! But I'm getting them all at once, so I'm having to eat more than one a day. Somehow I'm managing. Pink Vernissage: one of those crazy productive large cherries. It's ok but wasn't a favorite until I dried it. It has the most wonderful complex flavor dried, like a good pizza sauce. Now I'm sorry I used so many of these for salsa instead of pulling out the dehydrator earlier.

September 12, 2012	#28
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I am seeing that Container's Choice is also being offered in different colors than the red that I grew. If there was a worst-tasting tomato contest, I would enter that thing, and no one else would have a chance.

September 13, 2012	#29
nancyruhl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan Posts: 1,051	Well, I've been put on notice that I can only grow half of the varieties I did this season for next year. Cherries not invited back are Medovaya Kapla, Vince P1 and Violet Jasper, all for flavor reasons. 2 surprising good varieties I will have back are Mirabelle Blanche, a tasty and very pretty pastel pink, and Prize of the Trials, a tasty orange cherry. Several of the Wild Boar Farms varieties won't be back either. Not crazy about any of the "Boars", Trentons Tiger was pretty but dry, and Micheal Pollan just wasn't worth replanting. Did really like Sweet Carneros Pink, Beauty Queen, Brad's Black Heart, and Blonde Boar. In the pink category, Brandywine from Croatia, Ferris Wheel, Meme Beauce won't be back. Unsure of which of the black varieties I will regrow. Of the bicolors, the only thing I know for sure is that Hawaiian Pineapple will be back. For the greenies, I think Malakhitovaya Shultka and Speers Tennessee Green are gone due to extreme lateness or low productivity. Red saladette size, I just don't have that much use for. That means Czech Bush, Siberian, Yamal and Zleovo are gone and Magyar Piros Boker and Matina (a nice surprise in the early but flavorful category) are coming back. Larger reds, I have eliminated Gianinnies Red Plum, Ludmillas Red Plum, Sherrill, Tamu Joy, and Zogola. All the hearts, both pink and red, were outstanding for me this year, so those will be tough choices. I also loved all the pastes I grew. By my count, I still need to eliminate 80 more varieties. Egad.

September 13, 2012	#30
Elliot Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hicksville, New York Posts: 503	It may not be fair to cross varieties off of the 2013 list because they did not do well this year. This was a very unusual season with record breaking heat for long periods of time. None of mine did well. I did however do somewhat well (c+) with sweet 100's and red grape. I did not do well with miracle sweet or carolina gold. In past summers, these were my best plants.