KC 146 (Campbells 146)

[paulgrow]

Got some seeds from Rutgers to try this variety.
Developed by Campbells Soup.

Is this an OP variety or a Hybrid?

[Redbaron]

Originally Posted by paulgrow

Got some seeds from Rutgers to try this variety.
Developed by Campbells Soup.

Is this an OP variety or a Hybrid?

It is an OP commercial heirloom from 1956.

[paulgrow]

Thanks RB

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by paulgrow

Thanks RB

Paul, I answered you right after you started the thread and then BANG, off goes my DSL line.

I've been having problems and Wayne, my computer man and a friend, and I are trying to figure it out.

It's either Verizon or AOL which is my entree to the internet, yes, I know about AOL, been with them since 1982, but Wayne put Firefox on my desk top when I got this new computer in NOV so I think I'll have him switch and see what happens.

A new Monitor coming this week so he'll be here when it arrives. We should have bought a new Monitor at the same time we bought the new computer, but it was running just fine, back then.

It's only about money, and I've been using a loaner monitor from him for the past two weeks so we could see if it was monitor or the new computer.

All to say I'd copied off the blurb from Glenn Drowns catalog for you since most folks who got it early on got it from him.

OK, checking the modem to my left and DSL not flashing, which is good, but who knows how long I'll be on.

Carolyn

[dice]

Carolyn, your AOL client is simply Internet Explorer, relabeled. (It
comes with Windows.) People use Firefox because it can be made
more secure (less chance of having your credit card numbers,
bank accounts, and so on pirated; less chance of having your
computer incorporated into a "botnet" in the background for
various nefarious purposes; etc).

[Vespertino]

I concur that AOL isn't very good. There's numerous problems with it and not just from the user's side- it isn't modern or up to date so it isn't very good displaying websites properly since it didn't support a lot of the web technology commonly used these days. One of the community sites I worked on we actually put in our TOS that we couldn't assist users who were having trouble with our site if they were using AOL.

Firefox rules!

[dice]

(I actually added this paragraph to the previous post,
but it did not seem to go through. I did not know it had
posted until I woke up hours later and re-posted it.)

If you do not enable active scripting, Windows Update does
not work, for example, besides all of the javascript
on www pages not working. If you do enable it,
that is where legions of Internet Explorer (and thus AOL)
security vulnerabilities have been found over the years.
Firefox does not use it, it has its own javascript engine.

[carolyn137]

First, about KC 146 and the following link should elighten some of you as to the parents of Ramapo F1 and KC.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...0.html?12#post

Second, DSL problems and AOL.

When I was in Denver at the med school we had to punch cards and give them to someone who fed them to a big something or other.

When I moved back East in 1982 and had a new job in 83 I was given an IBM and don't ask me why I chose AOL at the time but I did, so I've used AOL since 1983 with very few problems thru the years.

The browsers in AOL and IE are almost the same, MS browsers, but there were those times I had to switch to IE at just ONE site to get it something to post.

I live in the boonies and from time to time there can be interuptions, when the Verzon folks are working on the lines, but what happened a week ago Friday was much worse. Like being kicked off 6 X in one hour.

I called Verizon, was switched to two gentlemen in India, one said all was well, the other wasn't sure, and he told me I'd be getting a phone call the next day.

And I was getting e-mails in Japanses through all of this.

The local call was from a local Verizon man and he was here within 30 minutes, checked the stub and the box under the deck where the line came in. FOund nothing.

He gave me his home number to update him, I did, and he said he was starting to believe that it might be what's called reflection from DSL up the road from me bouncing back.

Don't ask, I couldn't understand a lot of what he told me. And Wayne, my computger man had asked me about restrictions on bandwith and Bill said right on since the local Salem Office is no longer installing DSL lines since the area is saturated. he said new equipment had reached Albany but wasn't here yet.

He said he would speak to his supervisor Monday AM about getting a backhoe to dig up my stub and rewire it.

I had Firefox on the desktop and wayne set it up for me when he delivered my new Monitor but he couldn't import my faves from AOL and without those, several K's worth, I'm lost.

Wayne has mmore security stuff on the desktop, I've been verypleased with AVG but also have malware and other ones, and never a virus, etc., and he warned me about not jupdating as often as I should.

Problems this last Monday afternoon, none yesterday and none today to date, no more e-mails in japanse, so we shall see and if all is well I'll contact Bill and ask him what might have happened as well as telling him I was going to contact Verizon to subtract from my bill the days lost.

So that'smy story amd I'm sticking to it.

Carolyn

[dice]

Yes, manually, one by one, "importing" bookmarks into a different
web browser is a major inconvenience.

When I first went from dial-up to a wider bandwidth connection,
I looked at the lines on the local telephone poles. The telephone
company lines that DSL would run over were no newer than
the 1950s. The corporate broadband lines from whatever cable
tv company originally installed them were from the 1970s to 1980s.
The community cable lines owned by the local power company had
been installed last week, more or less.

I went with the provider with the newest transmission lines.

edit:
The corporate telephone and cable lines would be upgraded
eventually, of course, to handle more bandwidth, repairs
after storms, just wearing out, etc, but the community cable
lines were already brand new. I did not need to wait for bean
counters to decide that the cost of support calls and complaints
was more than the cost of simply upgrading the transmission
lines.

[carolyn137]

Dice, I'm glad you understood most of what I posted.

Since a BAD Mon PM with the DSL there have been no outages since then and no e-mails inJapanese either.

Bill, my Verizon guy just called and he said, but I didn't do anything.

He said my DSL is out of Albany and the new stuff has made it to Cambridge, 12 miles below Salem, and Salem would be next on June 14th. I told him everything was running more slowly, and he said, it would be b/c of the sturated status here..

I live in the boonies and the telephone/DSL lines are underground and the telephone lines are very old.

When and if my DSL line goes out, in the past, and comes back by about 4:30 I know they're working on the lines somewhere b'c they stop working by 4:30PM .

He then said that someone in Albany could have fooled with the DSL system, or something like that, and I said let me see how it goes, and he agreed.

Carolyn

[dice]

and the telephone lines are very old.

There you go. They can only handle so much data until the bandwidth
is saturated and the routers start dropping packets. This appears
to the user as "slow", because relatively more packet retransmissions
have to happen before a web page completes downloading, etc.

That would not cause the diverted emails to show up, though;
that is a symptom of someone messing around with an email
server somewhere, server software upgrades with bugs, etc
(some kind of software problem, program logic gone astray).

Our "local power company" that owns the new community cable
broadband lines here is actually a public utility rather than a private
company. (No stockholders to satisfy, only users.)