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Old April 29, 2013   #16
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There was a story from Tomatofest one year about students (temporary
workers) filling seed packets while wearing long-sleeved sweaters.
The theory was that stray seeds in their packets came from seeds of
a previous variety for which the student was filling packets sticking in
the sleeves of their sweaters and then falling out onto the table while
they had seeds piled there for a different variety (that they were
subsequently filling packets for).

I guess that could happen to anyone who lived far enough north
to be wearing a long-sleeved sweater while filling seed packets
for multiple different varieties.
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Old April 30, 2013   #17
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Hum......

Well, I was out checking tomatoes and taking photos this morning and I'm now thinking that even the "RL Noir de Crimee," may not be the real deal as it looks very ribbed to me. Don't know if this is just temporary due to growing conditions or if it will really end up that ribbed. All the fruit are pretty much like the ones shown in the attached photo.

Also have a photo from today of a cluster from the "PL Noir de Crimee" - some of the fruit are developing a bit of a squared shape in the top portion....

I started 6 more of the seeds today just to see what I get with a larger sample.

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Old May 18, 2013   #18
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Hi,


Here's a quick progress report on my "mystery noirs....." At this point, I'm not sure what either of them really is. The PL one is a true mystery - probably a bee cross, and the RL doesn't really resemble the descriptions I've seen - esp. the one in Carolyn's book. They're next to a Black Krim for comparison purposes and an Indian Stripe (with my first fruit in the garden to blush) is partly visible to the left.

I never did get the 6 additional seeds growing, but I did "bag" some buds on the PL Noir de Crimee as shown in the photo.

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Old May 20, 2013   #19
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The "Noir de Crimee PL" looks nothing like it. Cross or completely
different variety. (I bet they ripen to red plums, maybe pastes.)
The RL one looks more oblate than mine did, but that could be
different growing conditions. Mine were round, side to side and
top to bottom, like baseballs.
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Old May 30, 2013   #20
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Here's a photo of my mystery noir about 2 weeks since the last photo. Interesting ripening pattern!!

Dice, I compared Tania's list of pastes and plums and pears to her list of potato leafed plants and there are no matches that seem possible although there were 2 that might have come close - one was Japanese black trifele (although the shapes not really right) and one other I can't recall at the moment. I guess it will be a plum or pear of some type, but not sure about the color yet.....

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Old May 30, 2013   #21
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Hi Again ,

Meant to say it will probably be a plum or paste (not pear) of some type.

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