New Stokes Tomato Additions 2007

travis · November 21, 2006

Well, I went over to the PO and mailed off a CARE package to my daughter in Austin, and found a Stokes 2007 catalog in my box.

Under commercial type F1s:

Scarlet Red VFF: "74 days. Deep globe type with good shelf life and extra large fruit. Firm, great tasting flesh has the high crimson gene which accounts for its mature dark red color. Vigorous determinate plant provides good fruit cover and excellent yields for basket weave or row crop culture . Use as a mature green or vine ripe type. Additional tolerances to Grey leaf Spot and Alternaria stem canker. Compare to Florida 47R. (8.95 per packet 40 seeds) In the photo, this variety looks very similar to a Randy Gardner type tomato with those real thick walls and semi dry seed locules.

Under F1 plum and cherry types:

Sweet Hearts F: "60 days. Brilliant red, very firm oval grape type with excellent flavor, brix and shelf life. Outstanding tolerance to cracking. Impressive yields, full clusters, indeterminate plant. Fusarium tolerance. Pkt: 10 seeds." (4.50) This one is shown as an elongated plum shaped cherry.

Smarty VF: "65 days. Semi-determinate vigorous plants should be trimmed for increased yields. Excellent high sugar red grape type with firm fruit and long shelf life. Pkt: 10 seeds." (4.50) This one is pictured as a slightly elongated cluster cherry.

Cherry Pie: "65 days. Vigorous indeterminate plant. Ideal clusters of round, red firm fruit which average 1-1/4 in/3.2 cm in diameter. Excellent flavor and brix. Long shelf life. Tolerant to ToMV, ASC, GLS, and some Nematode tolerance. Pkt: 10 seeds. (4.50) In the photo, this one is a round red typical "ladder" truss cherry.

Stokes remains oriented to commercial F1 tomatoes that are sold in relatively expensive small count packets and huge bulk quantities along with several "garden type" F1s in reasonably priced packets of 40 seeds. They also carry a handful of open pollinated varieties for 1.75 to 2.00 a packet of about 200 seeds.

PV

greggf · November 21, 2006

"Scarlet Red VFF: "74 days. Deep globe type with good shelf life and extra large fruit. Firm, great tasting flesh has the high crimson gene which accounts for its mature dark red color."

Looks like they dropped "Spitfire." Scarlet Red apparently replaces Spitfire as their "high crimson gene" selection. I assume TGS still sells Spitfire.

I never got around to trying Spitfire because the few who tried it had not much good to say about it. I wonder if Scarlet Red is any better or if, as you say, it's a Randy Gardner commercial-type?

=gregg=

**carolyn137** · November 21, 2006

Got my Stokes today as well and read it through.

Surely you saw that they carried Brandywine, which is their only tip of the hat towards heirlooms.

I will not pay that kind of money for an F1 cherry tomato, no way, but no way.

But they'vcer always carried a good tasting Lebanese summer squash and the one I loved so much they don't carry anymore, but Clarita looks like a good sub for one por grown plant.

barkeater · November 21, 2006

"Great tasting flesh"? Who wrote that blurb, Jeffrey D??

November 21, 2006	#1
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	New Stokes Tomato Additions 2007 Well, I went over to the PO and mailed off a CARE package to my daughter in Austin, and found a Stokes 2007 catalog in my box. Under commercial type F1s: Scarlet Red VFF: "74 days. Deep globe type with good shelf life and extra large fruit. Firm, great tasting flesh has the high crimson gene which accounts for its mature dark red color. Vigorous determinate plant provides good fruit cover and excellent yields for basket weave or row crop culture . Use as a mature green or vine ripe type. Additional tolerances to Grey leaf Spot and Alternaria stem canker. Compare to Florida 47R. (8.95 per packet 40 seeds) In the photo, this variety looks very similar to a Randy Gardner type tomato with those real thick walls and semi dry seed locules. Under F1 plum and cherry types: Sweet Hearts F: "60 days. Brilliant red, very firm oval grape type with excellent flavor, brix and shelf life. Outstanding tolerance to cracking. Impressive yields, full clusters, indeterminate plant. Fusarium tolerance. Pkt: 10 seeds." (4.50) This one is shown as an elongated plum shaped cherry. Smarty VF: "65 days. Semi-determinate vigorous plants should be trimmed for increased yields. Excellent high sugar red grape type with firm fruit and long shelf life. Pkt: 10 seeds." (4.50) This one is pictured as a slightly elongated cluster cherry. Cherry Pie: "65 days. Vigorous indeterminate plant. Ideal clusters of round, red firm fruit which average 1-1/4 in/3.2 cm in diameter. Excellent flavor and brix. Long shelf life. Tolerant to ToMV, ASC, GLS, and some Nematode tolerance. Pkt: 10 seeds. (4.50) In the photo, this one is a round red typical "ladder" truss cherry. Stokes remains oriented to commercial F1 tomatoes that are sold in relatively expensive small count packets and huge bulk quantities along with several "garden type" F1s in reasonably priced packets of 40 seeds. They also carry a handful of open pollinated varieties for 1.75 to 2.00 a packet of about 200 seeds. PV

November 21, 2006	#3
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Got my Stokes today as well and read it through. Surely you saw that they carried Brandywine, which is their only tip of the hat towards heirlooms. I will not pay that kind of money for an F1 cherry tomato, no way, but no way. But they'vcer always carried a good tasting Lebanese summer squash and the one I loved so much they don't carry anymore, but Clarita looks like a good sub for one por grown plant. __________________ Carolyn

November 21, 2006	#2
greggf Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boonville, NY Posts: 419	"Scarlet Red VFF: "74 days. Deep globe type with good shelf life and extra large fruit. Firm, great tasting flesh has the high crimson gene which accounts for its mature dark red color." Looks like they dropped "Spitfire." Scarlet Red apparently replaces Spitfire as their "high crimson gene" selection. I assume TGS still sells Spitfire. I never got around to trying Spitfire because the few who tried it had not much good to say about it. I wonder if Scarlet Red is any better or if, as you say, it's a Randy Gardner commercial-type? =gregg=

November 21, 2006	#4
barkeater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Kingdom, VT - Zone 3b Posts: 1,439	"Great tasting flesh"? Who wrote that blurb, Jeffrey D??