Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

A garden is only as good as the ground that it's planted in. Discussion forum for the many ways to improve the soil where we plant our gardens.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old July 16, 2013   #1
ScottinAtlanta
Tomatovillian™
 
ScottinAtlanta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 2,593
Default How to make Kudzu Compost

Folks, Kudzu, a legume vine, is rich in nitrogen, and acts as a turbo booster to heat up my compost pile. I add a batch every couple of weeks, turn well, and let it steam. Here is a photo essay on how to make it.

The six steps are:

1. Get your harvesting tool, and go cut some kudzu. Cut vines and leaves. Watch for snakes and bugs - both love the kudzu. The vine is easy to cut, and has no hairs or thorns to bother you. DON'T USE KUDZU THAT HAS BEEN SPRAYED WITH A HERBICIDE!
2. Get you a big pile of the leaves and vines. I use about 4-5 bushels at a time.
3. Mulch the kudzu in a shredder. I use a Craftsman chipper. Make sure you shred it well - it will want to revive and grow again if you don't.
4. The shredded kudzu - ready to compost.
5. Put it on your compost pile and mix it in. I add a little water to wet it at this stage. Not too much, just wet.
6. Sit back and wait for the heat.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1 Kudzu harvesting tool.jpg (451.9 KB, 118 views)
File Type: jpg 2 Kudzu vines and leaves harvested.jpg (713.4 KB, 122 views)
File Type: jpg 3 Mulching the Kudzu.jpg (549.4 KB, 117 views)
File Type: jpg 4 Mulched Kudzu.jpg (620.1 KB, 118 views)
File Type: jpg 5 Put it in the compost pile.jpg (777.5 KB, 121 views)
File Type: jpg 6 Mix Kudzu in thoroughly.jpg (759.8 KB, 122 views)

Last edited by ScottinAtlanta; July 16, 2013 at 03:19 PM.
ScottinAtlanta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 16, 2013   #2
mari.beth
Tomatovillian™
 
mari.beth's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 54
Default

As a native Atlantan, this caught my eye. What a great use for kudzu!!!
mari.beth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #3
Redbaron
Tomatovillian™
 
Redbaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,488
Default

Have you had a chance to use this Kudzu compost yet? Theoretically it should be extra rich in trace minerals since kudzu is deep rooted. But have you tried it yet?
__________________
Scott

AKA The Redbaron

"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system."
Bill Mollison
co-founder of permaculture
Redbaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #4
kurt
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl.
Posts: 2,500
Default

http://home.comcast.net/~pobrien48/T...rld_Record.htm Saw this about a year ago.Under food and water paragraph he states.Shredded kudzu is a key ingredient in Mr. Wilber's remarkable recipe
__________________
KURT

Last edited by kurt; July 17, 2013 at 10:03 AM.
kurt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #5
Redbaron
Tomatovillian™
 
Redbaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,488
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurt View Post
http://home.comcast.net/~pobrien48/T...rld_Record.htm Saw this about a year ago.Under food and water paragraph he states.Shredded kudzu is a key ingredient in Mr. Wilber's remarkable recipe
Bingo! I found it!
Quote:
Shredded kudzu is a key ingredient in Mr. Wilber's remarkable recipe.
So I guess it is more than just theoretical! Kudzu is a great compost ingredient!

Thanks for that Scott. You found the perfect use for an invasive weed. Or I guess Wilber did.

PS. Please keep us informed as to your personal results.
__________________
Scott

AKA The Redbaron

"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system."
Bill Mollison
co-founder of permaculture

Last edited by Redbaron; July 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM. Reason: PS
Redbaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #6
ScottinAtlanta
Tomatovillian™
 
ScottinAtlanta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 2,593
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbaron View Post
Have you had a chance to use this Kudzu compost yet? Theoretically it should be extra rich in trace minerals since kudzu is deep rooted. But have you tried it yet?
Not yet - but I am starting some pots today for tomatoes, eggplants, and herbs, and I will use this compost, using Tania's container soil recipe which she kindly posted here http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...t=29166&page=2

The problem I have is that large volumes of material compost down to small amounts of compost - I need to step up my composting if I am to have enough to dress my raised beds with 2 inches of compost this fall.
ScottinAtlanta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #7
Redbaron
Tomatovillian™
 
Redbaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,488
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottinAtlanta View Post
Not yet - but I am starting some pots today for tomatoes, eggplants, and herbs, and I will use this compost, using Tania's container soil recipe which she kindly posted here http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...t=29166&page=2

The problem I have is that large volumes of material compost down to small amounts of compost - I need to step up my composting if I am to have enough to dress my raised beds with 2 inches of compost this fall.
One trick to boost up the volume for fall is tree leaves. They don't have to be "cooked" like other materials and leave more bulk after finished. So what I typically do is chop up leaves and mix it with my normal compost or just layer it directly on my beds. Whichever you prefer.
__________________
Scott

AKA The Redbaron

"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system."
Bill Mollison
co-founder of permaculture
Redbaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #8
efisakov
Tomatovillian™
 
efisakov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NJ, zone 7
Posts: 3,162
Default

Scott, would you suggest to use grass cuttings as well?
__________________
Ella

God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

Last edited by efisakov; July 17, 2013 at 07:53 PM.
efisakov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #9
Redbaron
Tomatovillian™
 
Redbaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,488
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by efisakov View Post
Scott, would you suggest to use to use grass cuttings as well?
There are 2 Scotts posting here! But if you are asking me.....my primary compost material is grass clippings. I don't have Kudzu to use. The problem with grass clippings is what Scott from Atlanta mentioned. ie they compost down to almost nothing.

I basically use grass clippings and kitchen scraps and some horse manure to make compost, usually in a pile right in the garden. If not directly in the garden, then right beside the garden and I extend the garden over that area the following year. For the first year I have quite a large pile of free bark from a cottonwood tree which I will chop up and use too.

But in fall I use a lot of chopped leaves to either mix with the compost and/or a layer over the garden. I have used both methods and both work fine. It is hard to tell for sure which may be best. Both work.
__________________
Scott

AKA The Redbaron

"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system."
Bill Mollison
co-founder of permaculture
Redbaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #10
mecktom
Tomatovillian™
 
mecktom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Southern Virginia
Posts: 342
Default

I am sure this works but after living in the South all my life and seeing cudzu gone wild...I would never bring any form of it on my farm.
mecktom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #11
efisakov
Tomatovillian™
 
efisakov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NJ, zone 7
Posts: 3,162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbaron View Post
There are 2 Scotts posting here! But if you are asking me.....my primary compost material is grass clippings. I don't have Kudzu to use. The problem with grass clippings is what Scott from Atlanta mentioned. ie they compost down to almost nothing.

I basically use grass clippings and kitchen scraps and some horse manure to make compost, usually in a pile right in the garden. If not directly in the garden, then right beside the garden and I extend the garden over that area the following year. For the first year I have quite a large pile of free bark from a cottonwood tree which I will chop up and use too.

But in fall I use a lot of chopped leaves to either mix with the compost and/or a layer over the garden. I have used both methods and both work fine. It is hard to tell for sure which may be best. Both work.
Thanks, Scott.
__________________
Ella

God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”
efisakov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #12
gssgarden
Tomatovillian™
 
gssgarden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,827
Default

Well what do you know!?!?!? A use for it!! lol

I've seen it in action, and man can it take over quickly!! Seemed like feet a day!

Nice to know!! I'll be on the look out for some now but will NEVER let it grow near my house!! lol


Greg
gssgarden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 17, 2013   #13
efisakov
Tomatovillian™
 
efisakov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NJ, zone 7
Posts: 3,162
Default

To have a kudzu in your yard is a headache, but it helps with headache too (has medicinal use).
__________________
Ella

God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”
efisakov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 24, 2013   #14
TexasAngel
Tomatovillian™
 
TexasAngel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Zone 8b
Posts: 39
Smile

Wow, finally a good use for that dreaded "vine that ate the south". Funny story - about eighteen years ago when we first moved into our home there was a utility pole with guy wires in our yard. A vine was growing on the guy wire. I had no idea what I was doing and I used some of the stems as small plant stakes. Yep. It was Kudzu. I kept after it for a few seasons and managed to eradicate most of it.

TexasAngel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 24, 2013   #15
ScottinAtlanta
Tomatovillian™
 
ScottinAtlanta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 2,593
Default

I also eat fried kudzu leaves. They have a beany taste. Odd, I know, but I see no reason not to use our bountiful natural resources.
ScottinAtlanta is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:10 PM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★