A garden is only as good as the ground that it's planted in. Discussion forum for the many ways to improve the soil where we plant our gardens.
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March 6, 2015 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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pH....too low for this year?
Just got my soil sample back and in one area where I am putting in a new garden the pH is 5.2. How is this going to affect my ability to grow vegetables and is there any way to raise it enough for this growing season? I have read that quite a few vegetables are ok in 5.5...to 6 or so. It has been suggested that I just put blueberries here but with limited space and areas of sunlight I need to have this for tomatoes, etc.... I know lime is an answer but will I be able to use the area this year or will I have to wait for the lime to raise the pH.
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March 6, 2015 | #2 |
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Lime works quickly. what kind of soil do you have?
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March 6, 2015 | #3 |
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Don't over do it tomatoes like soil on the acid side.
6 or so. Worth |
March 6, 2015 | #4 |
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My soil tends to have clay. This area was a yard area with whatever grass would grow. They gave a lime recommendation so I guess I will apply asap.
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March 6, 2015 | #5 |
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March 6, 2015 | #6 |
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They recommended per acre....would have to do math for my small plot. 3 tons/ac for agricultural, farm. My space only about 20 by 20....Will have to work out per square foot.
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March 6, 2015 | #7 |
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I think 1 ton/acre is .05lb/sq ft...so .15lb/sq ft....400 sq ft...60lbs. Sounds like lots...
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Someone please check. Square foot in acre 43,560. Square foot in your garden 400. Pounds of lime for acre 6,000 Worth Last edited by Worth1; March 6, 2015 at 09:11 PM. |
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March 6, 2015 | #9 |
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Yours sounds better...
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March 6, 2015 | #10 |
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3 tons/ acre right? 6000 lb/43,560 ft²=.14 lb/ft² or about 55 lbs for your 20x20 garden. A 40 lb bag is only about $5.00
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March 6, 2015 | #11 |
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March 6, 2015 | #12 |
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Ok...I was right. I had forgotten how 'heavy' a bag of lime was.
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March 6, 2015 | #13 |
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I'll probably regret this post, but I get about 30-40 pounds +/-.
3 tons/ acre = 6000 pounds/acre = 6000 pounds/43,560 sq feet = .1377 pounds/sq feet .1377 lbs/sq ft X 400 sq ft = 55 pounds BUT you don't want to go completely to Ph 7....closer to 6, so estimating ~ 30 - 40 lbs +/-. That should leave it slightly acidic and in the optimum range for tomatoes.
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March 6, 2015 | #14 |
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I found this nifty calculator on line.
It will let you adjust to what PH you want and not someones recommendation. I like it. It says I would need 42.4 pounds of lime to raise the ph from 5.5 to 6.5 to 6.8 in clay soil in a 400 square foot garden. Worth http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.eXY&cad=rja Last edited by Worth1; March 6, 2015 at 09:41 PM. |
March 6, 2015 | #15 |
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I assumed the limestone recommendation was to bring the pH up into the 6's for general gardening. In any case, a single 40 lb bag is a nice even number!
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