Ron's Carbon Copy - 2016

Scooty · August 9, 2016

Anyone grow this one out this year? I got it from two seed sources on TV, and they taste completely different.

One is savory and sweet. The other savory and sour. Several plants from each source were grown next to each other so I know its not about conditions.

The best one (to me) is the one that is savory and sweet. It taste almost like someone made a savory, tomatoey concord grape.

kath · August 9, 2016

I think your description of savory and sweet is accurate. RCC is a good tasting tomato and I don't care for sour/acid at all.

imp · August 9, 2016

Ron's Carbon Copy tastes just likE Carbon variety does- all that good dark tomato flavor. It's a big tomato crammed into a cherry sized bite!

Labradors2 · August 9, 2016

I would echo exactly what Kath said

Linda

SharonRossy · August 9, 2016

I think it's definitely more savoury and sweet.

August 30, 2016

I finally got some ripe ones, today. My Ron's Carbon Copy was delayed, both in germination and maturity. They were also prone to splitting. It was probably the seeds and maybe the soil rather than the variety, though. So, I saved my own seeds for next year (to give it a better trial). My fruits were very sweet, but not particularly savory (that might be because I've been watering them a lot for increased growth). I enjoyed them. I'm curious what a sauce or soup made from tomatoes that sweet would taste like.

Scooty · August 30, 2016

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Originally Posted by shule1

I finally got some ripe ones, today. My Ron's Carbon Copy was delayed, both in germination and maturity. They were also prone to splitting. It was probably the seeds and maybe the soil rather than the variety, though. So, I saved my own seeds for next year (to give it a better trial). My fruits were very sweet, but not particularly savory (that might be because I've been watering them a lot for increased growth). I enjoyed them. I'm curious what a sauce or soup made from tomatoes that sweet would taste like.

I made about a pint of sauce from CC. It's AMAZING.

SharonRossy · August 31, 2016

My two RCC's are monster plants, completely taking over the tomato bed. No matter how much I top off or prune, it keeps growing and producing! The fruit are large and I would describe the taste as sweetish. I don't find it as sweet as Black Cherry but maybe it's this year's growing season. My Sun Sugars are quite tart which is very unusual. I have no idea if the extremely hot and humid temps played a role in that. I found it took all my tomatoes awhile to ripen, but now RCC is unreal. I'm going to have to oven roast them or make some kind of sauce. I can't keep up.
Sharon

September 1, 2016

@Scooty

Awesome.

Thanks for sharing.

@SharonRossy

The heat probably has a lot to do with the Sunsugars being tart. However, it could be caused by low potassium in the soil, too. I've read that potassium can help tomatoes to be less acidic. Potassium is important while it's hot. I believe it's less available while hot and more available while cold (I could be wrong), but it is supposed to improve heat-tolerance of the plant.

We must have plenty of potassium, because there's hardly any acid in most of our tomatoes, this year. I really miss acidic tomatoes. I was extremely happy to find that McGee was acidic, however. I love it. Next year, I want to plant some Early Girl F1 or F2 tomatoes just to ensure a good amount of acidity is available.

Scooty · September 1, 2016

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Originally Posted by SharonRossy

My two RCC's are monster plants, completely taking over the tomato bed. No matter how much I top off or prune, it keeps growing and producing! The fruit are large and I would describe the taste as sweetish. I don't find it as sweet as Black Cherry but maybe it's this year's growing season. My Sun Sugars are quite tart which is very unusual. I have no idea if the extremely hot and humid temps played a role in that. I found it took all my tomatoes awhile to ripen, but now RCC is unreal. I'm going to have to oven roast them or make some kind of sauce. I can't keep up.
Sharon

I have yet to check on our Austin's Black Cherry. But the "sweet and savory" version of Carbon Copy was almost 1.0 Brix above Black Cherry and a bit less acidic.

If you don't mind the seeds or skin, its pretty easy to get quite a bit of sauce out of cherries.

August 9, 2016	#1
Scooty Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Chicago-land & SO-cal Posts: 583	Ron's Carbon Copy - 2016 Anyone grow this one out this year? I got it from two seed sources on TV, and they taste completely different. One is savory and sweet. The other savory and sour. Several plants from each source were grown next to each other so I know its not about conditions. The best one (to me) is the one that is savory and sweet. It taste almost like someone made a savory, tomatoey concord grape.

September 1, 2016	#9
shule1 Guest Posts: n/a	@Scooty Awesome. Thanks for sharing. @SharonRossy The heat probably has a lot to do with the Sunsugars being tart. However, it could be caused by low potassium in the soil, too. I've read that potassium can help tomatoes to be less acidic. Potassium is important while it's hot. I believe it's less available while hot and more available while cold (I could be wrong), but it is supposed to improve heat-tolerance of the plant. We must have plenty of potassium, because there's hardly any acid in most of our tomatoes, this year. I really miss acidic tomatoes. I was extremely happy to find that McGee was acidic, however. I love it. Next year, I want to plant some Early Girl F1 or F2 tomatoes just to ensure a good amount of acidity is available. Last edited by shule1; September 1, 2016 at 12:55 AM.

August 9, 2016	#2
kath Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: zone 6b, PA Posts: 5,664	I think your description of savory and sweet is accurate. RCC is a good tasting tomato and I don't care for sour/acid at all.

August 9, 2016	#3
imp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 4,832	Ron's Carbon Copy tastes just likE Carbon variety does- all that good dark tomato flavor. It's a big tomato crammed into a cherry sized bite!

August 9, 2016	#4
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,897	I would echo exactly what Kath said Linda

August 9, 2016	#5
SharonRossy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,140	I think it's definitely more savoury and sweet.

August 30, 2016	#6
shule1 Guest Posts: n/a	I finally got some ripe ones, today. My Ron's Carbon Copy was delayed, both in germination and maturity. They were also prone to splitting. It was probably the seeds and maybe the soil rather than the variety, though. So, I saved my own seeds for next year (to give it a better trial). My fruits were very sweet, but not particularly savory (that might be because I've been watering them a lot for increased growth). I enjoyed them. I'm curious what a sauce or soup made from tomatoes that sweet would taste like.

August 31, 2016	#8
SharonRossy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,140	My two RCC's are monster plants, completely taking over the tomato bed. No matter how much I top off or prune, it keeps growing and producing! The fruit are large and I would describe the taste as sweetish. I don't find it as sweet as Black Cherry but maybe it's this year's growing season. My Sun Sugars are quite tart which is very unusual. I have no idea if the extremely hot and humid temps played a role in that. I found it took all my tomatoes awhile to ripen, but now RCC is unreal. I'm going to have to oven roast them or make some kind of sauce. I can't keep up. Sharon