Dad's Sunset

Fred Hempel · September 9, 2016

I saw this tomato at the Heirloom Expo, and it was by far the beefsteak with the most overall consistent form.

Then I read online where it is winning competitions across the pond.

So, I figure it deserves a thread. Even if it doesn't, I am making a thread. So I can learn more about this tomato.

Labradors2 · September 9, 2016

Maybe this variety prefers the cool and the damp. I checked it out on Baker Creek, and the reviews were not glowing from those who live in the deep south.

Linda

Fred Hempel · September 9, 2016

Interesting observation

Starlight · September 9, 2016

I had read the same reviews as Linda. Nice looking tomato, but could be iffy to grow in some areas. You may just have to grow it out and see what it does and doesn't like.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Dad's_Sunset

KarenO · September 10, 2016

looks very late at 90-100 DTM. I wonder if it is not what the Brits would call a cordon hothouse tomato to be grown under glass as they say. looks very pretty but without a really long growing season or grown under cover it is not one I would attempt. Interested to see if a current Tvillian has grown it and how it did for them.
Karen

Douglas14 · September 10, 2016

Fred,
Have you ever tried Emmy? I've grown it twice, and have been impressed with it's nice looking fruits(golden or light orange), that are meaty, and have some acidity to the taste IMO. The fruits are more round and medium-sized. I haven't grown Dad's Sunset. I'm sorry to go a little of topic.

bower · September 12, 2016

Dad's Sunset is on the list of NZheritage tomatoes for 'pro-lycopene', test results shown in the table at the bottom of this page:
https://heritagefoodcrops.org.nz/heirloom-tomatoes

Interestingly, the chemistry results indicate the genetics, presumably tt tangerine producing prolycopene orange fruit.

If you take a look at their 2015 research results, a lot of tomatoes were tested with higher pro-lycopene concentrations than Dad's ( even 8X more!).

Also the longer list shows it seems relatively rare to have detectable amounts of beta carotene and/or of the red lycopene in mainly pro-lycopene fruit, as Dad's Sunset does.

So there is something unusual about it's genetic makeup.

BigVanVader · September 12, 2016

Most descriptions do say very uniform if that's the trait you're looking for.

WhippoorwillG · September 13, 2016

Bower beat me to it, but that unusual makeup is what led me to grow it. There was a high concentration of an unidentified (for the screen used) carotenoid.

I want to do a few crosses next year against a few others to see how the colors and flavors shake out. I didn't get a good representative this year to make a reasonable assessment due to timing and environment.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

September 9, 2016	#1
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	Dad's Sunset I saw this tomato at the Heirloom Expo, and it was by far the beefsteak with the most overall consistent form. Then I read online where it is winning competitions across the pond. So, I figure it deserves a thread. Even if it doesn't, I am making a thread. So I can learn more about this tomato.

September 13, 2016	#9
WhippoorwillG Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Hartwell, Georgia Posts: 174	Bower beat me to it, but that unusual makeup is what led me to grow it. There was a high concentration of an unidentified (for the screen used) carotenoid. I want to do a few crosses next year against a few others to see how the colors and flavors shake out. I didn't get a good representative this year to make a reasonable assessment due to timing and environment. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Mark Whippoorwill Gardens

September 9, 2016	#2
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,897	Maybe this variety prefers the cool and the damp. I checked it out on Baker Creek, and the reviews were not glowing from those who live in the deep south. Linda

September 9, 2016	#4
Starlight Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: AL Posts: 1,993	I had read the same reviews as Linda. Nice looking tomato, but could be iffy to grow in some areas. You may just have to grow it out and see what it does and doesn't like. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Dad's_Sunset

September 10, 2016	#5
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	looks very late at 90-100 DTM. I wonder if it is not what the Brits would call a cordon hothouse tomato to be grown under glass as they say. looks very pretty but without a really long growing season or grown under cover it is not one I would attempt. Interested to see if a current Tvillian has grown it and how it did for them. Karen

September 10, 2016	#6
Douglas14 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 602	Fred, Have you ever tried Emmy? I've grown it twice, and have been impressed with it's nice looking fruits(golden or light orange), that are meaty, and have some acidity to the taste IMO. The fruits are more round and medium-sized. I haven't grown Dad's Sunset. I'm sorry to go a little of topic.

September 12, 2016	#7
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	Dad's Sunset is on the list of NZheritage tomatoes for 'pro-lycopene', test results shown in the table at the bottom of this page: https://heritagefoodcrops.org.nz/heirloom-tomatoes Interestingly, the chemistry results indicate the genetics, presumably tt tangerine producing prolycopene orange fruit. If you take a look at their 2015 research results, a lot of tomatoes were tested with higher pro-lycopene concentrations than Dad's ( even 8X more!). Also the longer list shows it seems relatively rare to have detectable amounts of beta carotene and/or of the red lycopene in mainly pro-lycopene fruit, as Dad's Sunset does. So there is something unusual about it's genetic makeup.

September 12, 2016	#8
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	Most descriptions do say very uniform if that's the trait you're looking for.