Time for this years cover crop

cjp1953 · September 20, 2016

Well I pulled my garden today.Had a good year with my tomatoes even though we had a very dry summer.I turned everything over as I had straw mulch over the old part of my garden.I expanded my garden 6 feet out and 12 feet across.Now I have around 200sq.ft.I went to my local feed store and bought my cover crop.75% winter rye and 25% hariy vetch.I just need to get a friends tiller and make a few passes so I can can rake the seed in.Glad I have this done as I'm getting my other knee replacement 2 weeks from tomorrow.I had my right knee done Mach 18th of this year.Now I can get back to normal with my cycling and gardening next spring.

pondgardener · September 20, 2016

Carl,

No cottonseed meal this year? I pulled out a lot of my tomatoes due to a variety of reasons and got a couple of my garden boxes already planted in hairy vetch and started a third one Sunday. And the compost gets added to it weekly and I will have a large amount of water hyacinth from my pond biofilters to add to it as well. Always good to prepare for next year.

George

jtjmartin · September 20, 2016

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Originally Posted by cjp1953

Well I pulled my garden today.Had a good year with my tomatoes even though we had a very dry summer.I turned everything over as I had straw mulch over the old part of my garden.I expanded my garden 6 feet out and 12 feet across.Now I have around 200sq.ft.I went to my local feed store and bought my cover crop.75% winter rye and 25% hariy vetch.I just need to get a friends tiller and make a few passes so I can can rake the seed in.Glad I have this done as I'm getting my other knee replacement 2 weeks from tomorrow.I had my right knee done Mach 18th of this year.Now I can get back to normal with my cycling and gardening next spring.

Good luck to you CJP! I'll be praying for you. I had my right hip done 2 Decembers ago and I am fully back in the garden. Amazing procedures!

cjp1953 · September 21, 2016

I used up the cotton seed meal this spring.I'll have to get more come spring.I have been also using Garden Tone a couple times during the growing season.Only issue I had this year was my tomatoes all had cracked skins.I think that was due to the very dry weather we had.I heard many growers had that problem around this part of the state this summer.Thanks for the very kind thoughts,I also had a hip replaced in 2012.My knee was bone on bone,much more rehab with knee.But I'm pain free in the hip and right knee now.Modern surgery is truly amazing!

cjp1953 · September 21, 2016

George,I'm sorry but I forgot to add that I had very good luck with your Orange 117 seeds you sent.Great flavor.I'll add a few plants again next year.Thank you again.

Worth1 · September 21, 2016

Great news and good luck on the surgery.
I cant imagine the pain it must be.

cjp1953 · September 21, 2016

Thanks Worth,I'll be glad when this is over.

PhilaGardener · September 21, 2016

Good timing with the gardening season! May the second operation go as smoothly!

cjp1953 · September 21, 2016

Thank you.

cjp1953 · September 23, 2016

Well my friend's son was going to come over and make a pass with his tiller but never called.So I turned it over with my garden fork.It did not come out perfectly smooth but it will do.I hand tossed the seed as I always have done in the past.Should see the rye come up in as little as 48 hrs.Hairy Vetch comes up a little later.Watered well,so another season done.Glad it's over but I do enjoy hand turning it.My back will let me know that I'm 63 later tonight,lol.

cjp1953 · September 25, 2016

Checking the seeds today that I just tossed on the ground,and I see the little tails sprouting out of the rye seeds.Gave them a good watering today.Rye up in less than 48 hours!Amazing!

jtjmartin · September 25, 2016

How tall will the rye/hv get? Die out over winter? How much time between turning it under in spring and planting your tomatoes?

I don't know how well it will work, but our local ACE had 1/2 lb Southern States bean and pea seeds on clearance last winter. When I bought them for planting they were on clearance - then they dropped them to 10 cents. I bought more, gave some away to family and friends, and thought I would try them as a cover crop since they fix nitrogen, etc.

cjp1953 · September 25, 2016

Winter rye(cereal) gets 3 or 4 feet but you cut it down around April and then it's only 6 or 8 inches tall.Adds mass to the soil,vetch adds nitrogen to the soil.Both will winter over and start growing when temps reach in the 40's.I just mow it down and plant into it.You also turn it under a few weeks before planting.

cjp1953 · September 25, 2016

Look up what grows best in your part of the country.

jtjmartin · September 25, 2016

Thanks CJP - I'll add this to my routine. The Virginia Coop Extension says both will grow well here as cover crops with winter rye being very hardy. I can wait till late October to plant it in the Tidewater area of VA.

September 20, 2016	#1
cjp1953 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio Posts: 818	Time for this years cover crop Well I pulled my garden today.Had a good year with my tomatoes even though we had a very dry summer.I turned everything over as I had straw mulch over the old part of my garden.I expanded my garden 6 feet out and 12 feet across.Now I have around 200sq.ft.I went to my local feed store and bought my cover crop.75% winter rye and 25% hariy vetch.I just need to get a friends tiller and make a few passes so I can can rake the seed in.Glad I have this done as I'm getting my other knee replacement 2 weeks from tomorrow.I had my right knee done Mach 18th of this year.Now I can get back to normal with my cycling and gardening next spring.

September 20, 2016	#2
pondgardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 361	Carl, No cottonseed meal this year? I pulled out a lot of my tomatoes due to a variety of reasons and got a couple of my garden boxes already planted in hairy vetch and started a third one Sunday. And the compost gets added to it weekly and I will have a large amount of water hyacinth from my pond biofilters to add to it as well. Always good to prepare for next year. George __________________ “Live as if you'll die tomorrow, but farm as if you'll live forever.” Old Proverb

September 21, 2016	#4
cjp1953 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio Posts: 818	I used up the cotton seed meal this spring.I'll have to get more come spring.I have been also using Garden Tone a couple times during the growing season.Only issue I had this year was my tomatoes all had cracked skins.I think that was due to the very dry weather we had.I heard many growers had that problem around this part of the state this summer.Thanks for the very kind thoughts,I also had a hip replaced in 2012.My knee was bone on bone,much more rehab with knee.But I'm pain free in the hip and right knee now.Modern surgery is truly amazing!

September 21, 2016	#6
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Great news and good luck on the surgery. I cant imagine the pain it must be.

September 21, 2016	#8
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	Good timing with the gardening season! May the second operation go as smoothly!

September 23, 2016	#10
cjp1953 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio Posts: 818	Well my friend's son was going to come over and make a pass with his tiller but never called.So I turned it over with my garden fork.It did not come out perfectly smooth but it will do.I hand tossed the seed as I always have done in the past.Should see the rye come up in as little as 48 hrs.Hairy Vetch comes up a little later.Watered well,so another season done.Glad it's over but I do enjoy hand turning it.My back will let me know that I'm 63 later tonight,lol.

September 25, 2016	#11
cjp1953 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio Posts: 818	Checking the seeds today that I just tossed on the ground,and I see the little tails sprouting out of the rye seeds.Gave them a good watering today.Rye up in less than 48 hours!Amazing!

September 25, 2016	#12
jtjmartin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2016 Location: Williamsburg VA Zone 7b Posts: 1,110	How tall will the rye/hv get? Die out over winter? How much time between turning it under in spring and planting your tomatoes? I don't know how well it will work, but our local ACE had 1/2 lb Southern States bean and pea seeds on clearance last winter. When I bought them for planting they were on clearance - then they dropped them to 10 cents. I bought more, gave some away to family and friends, and thought I would try them as a cover crop since they fix nitrogen, etc.