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Old December 14, 2016   #16
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Thanks Karen. I did know exactly what you meant. No point in giving a plant that "looks" sick to a newbie. That's just asking for trouble!

Thanks for the link. It will keep me busy .

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Old December 14, 2016   #17
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Why not just let him get his own Roma tomatoes, or if he wants it for sauce give him another kind that tastes better like Opalka.

I would want to introduce him to some good tasting tomatoes that don't get too tall.
Like New Big Dwarf, Black Seaman or Eva Purple Ball (not sure how tall Eva Purple Ball gets). What is your zone? Are you in Ontario, Canada or Ontario, Ca?
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Old December 14, 2016   #18
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I was thinking about how a lot of inexperienced new gardeners think tomatoes are supposed to be red. A pretty easy to grow red cherry tomato that tastes good is Ambrosia Red.

Karen, I thought I had a lot of heart varieties seeds. Then I clicked on the link you provided.

Now, I realize I don't have many. I was going to say I don't have jack - but I do, "Happy Jack"
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Old December 14, 2016   #19
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http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/H...atoes_by_Color.

Most of the well know varieties are wispy and/or droopy to some extent but some much more than others.
even my PL ones are droopy in form even with heavy Potato leaves but they are not sparse. Perhaps what I meant was avoid a heart with sparse and truly wispy foliage that tends to look sickly to folks who have not grown that type of tomato before and most of the well known and commercially available hearts such as Anna Russian are in that category as you mention.
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Karen,here's one that is not wispy or droopy that you know very well,since it started you off on your current project.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/L...27s_Pink_Heart

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Old December 14, 2016   #20
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Ludmilla's pink heart is a beauty of a tomato for sure and I would highly recommend it as I got it from Carolyn's seed offer several years ago and used it for my breeding project because it was so early in my garden.
It's not widely grown or available though so if you want some seed Linda I can send you some and perhaps Carolyn, you may consider offering it again in your seed offer in future so more folks could have the same chance I did

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Old December 15, 2016   #21
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Thanks for your kind offer Karen. I had read about Ludmilla's Pink Heart, and thought it would be one that I would like, so I asked for it and received some seeds in the MMMM swap. Now all I have to do is grow it!!!!! It's early you say - hmmmmm. Very tempting

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Old December 15, 2016   #22
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It's not listed as early on Tatiana's site but for me, the first year I grew it it was the first ripe large tomato in my garden, a beautiful delicious big pink heart on a smallish plant. maybe not wispy but droopy for sure Give it a try, you won't be dissapointed. It's the mother of all my heart crosses.
(the seed you got may have come from me
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Old December 15, 2016   #23
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Maybe. 2013 seed. White sticky label on plastic baggie with lots of info written in black pen. Will definitely have to grow it .
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Old December 15, 2016   #24
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[QUOTE=Labradors2;604673]Maybe. 2013 seed. White sticky label on plastic baggie with lots of info written in black pen. Will definitely have to grow it .[/QUOTE

hmm doesn't sound like me. unless its from a couple of years ago. I just write the name these days. I've gotten lazy
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Old December 15, 2016   #25
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Linda, if you're looking at compact plants, maybe he'd enjoy Maglia Rosa?

I know you're the one who convinced me to try it, so I bought seeds and will be growing it this year. It hits the marks for being something different and unusual, for being early, for being well-behaved, and, according to most people who have grown it, for being delicious!

Of course, I don't know how it will hold up to disease, but you'd know about how it does on that front in your area.
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Old December 15, 2016   #26
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Rats Gorbelly! You should have asked me for some seeds! I grew Maglia Rosa this summer in the north. It behaved very well for me, and I really liked it. I didn't even notice that it's a bit wispy. I could certainly grow a seedling and it can go in a pot!

You questioned the disease tolerance of Roma and I did some checking. Seems that Roma has some built-in wilt resistance so I'm going to play it safe and grow one or two. I would hate to give him a variety of non-Roma OP's and have them all croak! If they all grow well, he can compare with the others for taste

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Rats Gorbelly! You should have asked me for some seeds! I grew Maglia Rosa this summer in the north. It behaved very well for me, and I really liked it. I didn't even notice that it's a bit wispy. I could certainly grow a seedling and it can go in a pot!

You questioned the disease tolerance of Roma and I did some checking. Seems that Roma has some built-in wilt resistance so I'm going to play it safe and grow one or two. I would hate to give him a variety of non-Roma OP's and have them all croak! If they all grow well, he can compare with the others for taste

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Aw, thanks, Linda!

I would have asked, but I did want to do something to directly support Fred's breeding efforts in a small way (I don't really have the space to benefit from his "collaborating membeship" packages), so I bought the seed directly from him.

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Old December 15, 2016   #28
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Aw, thanks, Linda!

I would have asked, but I did want to do something to directly support Fred's breeding efforts in a small way (I don't really have the space to benefit from his "collaborating membeship" packages), so I bought the seed directly from him.
That was nice of you. His Blush is also a good one!

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That was nice of you. His Blush is also a good one!
I've had Blush on the potential growlist for a couple years now. MR made it into the lineup first because I can squeeze it into a pot without support. I had a hard time determining exactly how large Blush gets, though. Fred's site says it's wispyish and needs support. How big did it get for you?
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Don't forget Pink Tiger, - in my humble opinion it managed to beat both Blush and MR.
All of them are great, but Pink Tiger was easy to grow, with no need for heavy support.
MR was a bit more complicate, and the optimal flavor stage hard to decipher.
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