Siberia / Siberian questions

[Wi-sunflower]

Dice brought to my attention the fact that seeds I sent him with the name Siberian were producing PL foliage, tho they should be RL. Tho the seeds I sent him were my own saved seeds, the purchased seeds I have are also growing PL. The seeds I have are from HPS a Jungs company.

The plants and tomatoes I got from those seeds are small and early and because none of the catalogs I've looked at mention leaf type, I had no idea I had something wrong.

Dice also brought up the fact that Siberia (the original smuggled out variety that Totally Tomatoes featured for many years) to him is a dwarf rugose variety.

I have problems with that. I used to get my seed from TT and grew it for many years and never saw it as dwarf or rugose. Very early and small tomatoes, yes. I still have just a very small amount of seed (also from HPS) that is labled Siberia and it's producing nice RL plants, but not rugose or stocky dwarf.

I also looked up the description for Siberian in SSE public catalog and they have it as "dwarf sprawling". Not sure how a plant can be both dwarf AND sprawling.

I don't know of any catalog that still lists the original Siberia tho I have copies of the old catalogs and dwarf is not in the description. Unfortunately neither is the leaf type.

So what do I have for both Siberia and Siberian and what SHOULD those 2 varieties be ??

Carol