Black and Red Boar tomato mystery

feraltomatoes · December 26, 2012

Been a while since I posted here. My online time is usually limited and done by my phone which makes it tough. I struggle with large fingers small button syndrome.
I don't remember if you sent me those seeds Ted.?
I have tried to put more thought into this, went back and checked hundreds of hand scribbled seed packages from from years past. I have come to the conclusion that Black and Brown Boar is likely the same as Black and Red Boar. Here is what I have, remember my brain is crammed with thousands of tomato variants, I have had a lot of sun exposure and I struggled to be a C student in high school.

Black and Brown Boar came from a single variant plant from a 100 plant row of Green Zebra, this was about 12 years ago. I grew 100 plants the next year and all turned out the same, dark striped fruit.
The next season I grew 200 plants from the F-3. All where again the same, except one very large dark brown striped specimen(this went on to create Large Barred Boar). The picture from green_go looks like a Large Barred Boar.
That same year I gave plants of the F-3's to several friends. One friend had a plant with fruit about 30% smaller fruit then the average Black and Brown, it also had more of a red appearance and had an extra complex flavor. I saved seeds from a few fruits thinking it may be a variant. My thought is that the difference was climatic and not genetic. He was in a hotter, drier climate and was very stingy with the water. The next season I did grow a small amount of plants from the smaller, redder fruit but do not remember seeing much difference from the Black and Brown so I did save some seeds, marked it Black and Red Boar and dropped the ball on that one as other varieties got my attention at the time.
Trying to remember whom I originally sent the alleged Black and Red Boar seeds to, could not have been more then a couple people.
My seed stock from Black and Brown Boar is now F-12 or F-13. I grew hundreds of plants last year alone and saw no variance although it has been a major donor to many great intentional crosses lately.

Hope this helps,
Brad Gates-Wild Boar Farms

December 26, 2012	#12
feraltomatoes Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Home=Napa Valley/ Garden=Solano County Posts: 245	Been a while since I posted here. My online time is usually limited and done by my phone which makes it tough. I struggle with large fingers small button syndrome. I don't remember if you sent me those seeds Ted.? I have tried to put more thought into this, went back and checked hundreds of hand scribbled seed packages from from years past. I have come to the conclusion that Black and Brown Boar is likely the same as Black and Red Boar. Here is what I have, remember my brain is crammed with thousands of tomato variants, I have had a lot of sun exposure and I struggled to be a C student in high school. Black and Brown Boar came from a single variant plant from a 100 plant row of Green Zebra, this was about 12 years ago. I grew 100 plants the next year and all turned out the same, dark striped fruit. The next season I grew 200 plants from the F-3. All where again the same, except one very large dark brown striped specimen(this went on to create Large Barred Boar). The picture from green_go looks like a Large Barred Boar. That same year I gave plants of the F-3's to several friends. One friend had a plant with fruit about 30% smaller fruit then the average Black and Brown, it also had more of a red appearance and had an extra complex flavor. I saved seeds from a few fruits thinking it may be a variant. My thought is that the difference was climatic and not genetic. He was in a hotter, drier climate and was very stingy with the water. The next season I did grow a small amount of plants from the smaller, redder fruit but do not remember seeing much difference from the Black and Brown so I did save some seeds, marked it Black and Red Boar and dropped the ball on that one as other varieties got my attention at the time. Trying to remember whom I originally sent the alleged Black and Red Boar seeds to, could not have been more then a couple people. My seed stock from Black and Brown Boar is now F-12 or F-13. I grew hundreds of plants last year alone and saw no variance although it has been a major donor to many great intentional crosses lately. Hope this helps, Brad Gates-Wild Boar Farms __________________ Brad Gates-Wild Boar Farms ______________________________