Hybrid grape/cherry varieties

zipcode · August 20, 2013

My personal opinion is that the hybrids for the segment 'cocktail size and smaller' has a lot more to offer in terms of taste and productivity than OPs. In last few years I've tried store tomatoes in small sizes and usually they have been better than what I tried in the garden.
One of my favourite cherries is Galina, and even that, I bought once some very similar cherries (in taste) in store that were obviously picked rather green so they might have gotten even better. And I bet they were a lot more productive than stingy Galina.
The problem with tomatoes bought in store, is that even if they have a name, it's not going to be the name of the variety, so you have no clue where you could buy same seeds. And most of those seeds will only be available in bulk or or worse.
So I am now on a quest to trial a decent amount of these hybrids. But there are very few opinions on the internet about these, I guess commercial growers don't post much.
In the UK there are is quite a decent selection, so will order from there. The official descriptions don't really say anything, the word sweet or supersweet or candy is thrown in every 2 words.

So ideally what I'd like is thin skin, strong taste, and preferably balanced sweet/acid, maybe on the acid side (Galina is my example of a very good balance, but it's somewhat mild in taste).

I made a 'small' list to see what you guys think of these, in case anyone tried them. I won't buy that many of course

, they are expensive (0.3-0.5 euro per seed), I'll try to narrow it down based on opinions.

Grapes:
Rosada, Sungrape, Golden Gem (seems to be the same as Gold gem), Sweet olive, Nectar, Trilly, Tomatoberry (Garden version and Grande version), Orange Santa (is this the same as Santorange?), Lizziebell+Katiebell+Luciebell (red+orange+yellow grapes sold as a mix pack).

Cherries:
Sakura, Suncherry premium, Tastyno, Golden cherry (appears to be bred by Tokita), Summer Sun (by Hazera, I can only buy them in minimum 50 seeds which makes them kinda extremely expensive, but they're supposedly 'the best tomato evah').

Trialing hybrids is expensive business, so I hope this thread to be useful to as many people as possible, so if you have tried a Hybrid cherry/grape not on the list that you think is fantastic, please post. (except Sungold

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August 20, 2013	#1
zipcode Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Romania/Germany , z 4-6 Posts: 1,582	Hybrid grape/cherry varieties My personal opinion is that the hybrids for the segment 'cocktail size and smaller' has a lot more to offer in terms of taste and productivity than OPs. In last few years I've tried store tomatoes in small sizes and usually they have been better than what I tried in the garden. One of my favourite cherries is Galina, and even that, I bought once some very similar cherries (in taste) in store that were obviously picked rather green so they might have gotten even better. And I bet they were a lot more productive than stingy Galina. The problem with tomatoes bought in store, is that even if they have a name, it's not going to be the name of the variety, so you have no clue where you could buy same seeds. And most of those seeds will only be available in bulk or or worse. So I am now on a quest to trial a decent amount of these hybrids. But there are very few opinions on the internet about these, I guess commercial growers don't post much. In the UK there are is quite a decent selection, so will order from there. The official descriptions don't really say anything, the word sweet or supersweet or candy is thrown in every 2 words. So ideally what I'd like is thin skin, strong taste, and preferably balanced sweet/acid, maybe on the acid side (Galina is my example of a very good balance, but it's somewhat mild in taste). I made a 'small' list to see what you guys think of these, in case anyone tried them. I won't buy that many of course , they are expensive (0.3-0.5 euro per seed), I'll try to narrow it down based on opinions. Grapes: Rosada, Sungrape, Golden Gem (seems to be the same as Gold gem), Sweet olive, Nectar, Trilly, Tomatoberry (Garden version and Grande version), Orange Santa (is this the same as Santorange?), Lizziebell+Katiebell+Luciebell (red+orange+yellow grapes sold as a mix pack). Cherries: Sakura, Suncherry premium, Tastyno, Golden cherry (appears to be bred by Tokita), Summer Sun (by Hazera, I can only buy them in minimum 50 seeds which makes them kinda extremely expensive, but they're supposedly 'the best tomato evah'). Trialing hybrids is expensive business, so I hope this thread to be useful to as many people as possible, so if you have tried a Hybrid cherry/grape not on the list that you think is fantastic, please post. (except Sungold )