Stick

**carolyn137** · June 15, 2017

OK, you all know the history of Stick and that it's a mutant plant. And now are looking at something to cross with it,for I'm not sure what reason,although I did read something about suckering in a post above.

Yes, a mutant plant but for me the larger question is how many mutations, and here's why.

Consider this variety

https://www.google.com/search?q=lute...&bih=790&dpr=1

and now

http://www.victoryseeds.com/tomato_l...or-bright.html

and now this

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Lutescent

Lutescent, nee Honor Bright was the result of several mutations,the first one causing a cascade effect of secondary mutations,I can't remember the technical name now, but such varieties and there is at least one more example that I know of,

So at this point I'm thinking that Stick might be another example and crossing it with any convential tomato variety is not going to help.

But there are ways that you can save seeds from Stick and play around trying to either repair or induce other mutations. Here's a thread that can help

the first link is the important one

https://www.google.com/search?q=How+...+with+mutagens

I have used both UV as well as mutagens when working with bacteria when I was in grad school, and can do that since most use E.coli for that which replicates every 20 min. Now compare that with a possible mutagenized seed from a tomato plant and how long it would take to get a mutant plant from seed to a mature plant.

Lastly,always be careful with UV since when I was in grad school I did a favor for a faculty member,forgot to pull the glass shield down to protect me from the bank of UV lights that are in such hoods (tissue culture)and almost lost my eyesight.

Carolyn, who hopes she helped,and at least she tried, and no more fetching links for her for maybe a few days at least.

June 15, 2017	#30
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	OK, you all know the history of Stick and that it's a mutant plant. And now are looking at something to cross with it,for I'm not sure what reason,although I did read something about suckering in a post above. Yes, a mutant plant but for me the larger question is how many mutations, and here's why. Consider this variety https://www.google.com/search?q=lute...&bih=790&dpr=1 and now http://www.victoryseeds.com/tomato_l...or-bright.html and now this http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Lutescent Lutescent, nee Honor Bright was the result of several mutations,the first one causing a cascade effect of secondary mutations,I can't remember the technical name now, but such varieties and there is at least one more example that I know of, So at this point I'm thinking that Stick might be another example and crossing it with any convential tomato variety is not going to help. But there are ways that you can save seeds from Stick and play around trying to either repair or induce other mutations. Here's a thread that can help the first link is the important one https://www.google.com/search?q=How+...+with+mutagens I have used both UV as well as mutagens when working with bacteria when I was in grad school, and can do that since most use E.coli for that which replicates every 20 min. Now compare that with a possible mutagenized seed from a tomato plant and how long it would take to get a mutant plant from seed to a mature plant. Lastly,always be careful with UV since when I was in grad school I did a favor for a faculty member,forgot to pull the glass shield down to protect me from the bank of UV lights that are in such hoods (tissue culture)and almost lost my eyesight. Carolyn, who hopes she helped,and at least she tried, and no more fetching links for her for maybe a few days at least. __________________ Carolyn