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June 22, 2010 | #1 |
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Info on Amey wanted
Tom sent me an Amey (white russet) and it is acting unexpectedly. It bloomed a week or more before anything else, has blue flowers, and berry set on 8 of ten flowers.
I though most russets were white flowered, and since this is a CV not originating from Tom's breeding lines I didn't expect the high berry set. Is what I'm seeing correct? Thanks, TZ |
June 22, 2010 | #2 |
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My Amey Russet is also flowering, light blue flowers, no berries yet
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That makes three of us that can affirm that Amey Russet has light blue flowers
Amey Russet may not be out of my breeding lines but I have been growing it for close to 20 years and I helped inform the USDA on the flavor. It will self itself well, most years setting a few berries. Just like the Lenape pedigree it has in it. Amey can bloom early since it is very determinate and if the weather is just right, it will sense the need to bloom or Fugetaboutit. I like writing about the Amey Russet, but is easier to just quote what others say about it. Quote:
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Amey Russet, as you can see from the above photo is a very dark brown russet with intense white flesh. It is still one of my favorites for roasting and baking. No other potato smells the same coming out of the oven. BTW, russets don't have to have white flowers. I think it is timely here to post an article I wrote about flower color as it pertains to russets. The following topic was never replied to and maybe folks have not seen the article at all. Few people are as interested in flower color in potatoes as I am. Having been involved as a cooperator with first year seedling tuber lines with breeders for over 40 years...gives me intimate knowledge of most potato varieties from the early breeding work through the naming of experimental lines. Growing some of the varieties of potatoes that my grandparents grew and the ones their grandparents grew..gives me a unique connection to potato varieties, past and present. Topic: Flower color on Russet potatoes (Read 102 times) (tatermater forum) Sept 2009 Quote:
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June 22, 2010 | #4 |
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Great news.
I collected pollen today and think I will try crossing it with Peanut, Nicola and Reich Tom for yellow flesh. |
June 22, 2010 | #5 |
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I have crosses of each of those growing now. Cool.
The Peanut cross (Mandel aka) that I have with John Tom Kaighin as the male parent is showing lots of diversity...perfect. A croos of Peant to Amey would give you some fingerling russets with either light yellow to white flesh with superb flavor. If Peanut was crossed by pollen from SVG, only a few seed will develop, and the likelihood of tetraploids is high, triploids, less so, but some near orange/yellow fleshed fingerlings would be awesome. |
June 22, 2010 | #6 |
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So you can use pollen from 2n plants on 4N flowers. I was thinking that the probablility of 1N pollen inactiveting ovules would be so high that you would never see any fruit set, and that it would work much better the other way with 2n pollen finding any/all unreduced (2n) ovules.
I started all of the little tubers you sent me in pots and one of the SVG pots was putting up a lot of sprouts so I cut it and also pulled off/replanted some sprouts so now I have a few small SVG plants that I can use for mother plants. Last edited by TZ-OH6; June 22, 2010 at 06:14 PM. Reason: addition |
September 12, 2010 | #7 |
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How your Amey did? I got 2 big potatoes, about 1/2lb each and I am not eating any yet, probably will eat one and save one for seed.
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September 12, 2010 | #8 |
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I haven't dug any yet because I have to organize some sort of storage space. I'll get to it pretty soon and post results.
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September 12, 2010 | #9 |
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I have a couple small to mid size tubers from one plant of Amey's, and 3 berries from which I have extracted seed. My Nordic Octobers and Skagit Valley Golds have also set a couple of berries apiece.
Here's something I haven't seen before, but Tom and others probably have. It's some kind of 'tuber' growing at a joint on the stem well up on the plant. Anyway, hope everyone is having a good season. Lee |
September 12, 2010 | #10 |
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I think my potatoes are ready to be dug up. Some time ago I noticed berries on several plants, but now when I went to retrieve them, I do not see them. Could they have fallen or blown off...do you have to retrieve them at a certain point in the growing process?
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September 12, 2010 | #11 |
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I took mine while they were still attached to the plant, that way I knew what plant it was from...but I did find some in the soil near my yukon and blue potato patch while harvesting
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I am going to answer several questions here.
1. Amey Russet can often be a very low set potato variety. That means that if the growing conditions are just such, low counts of one or two tubers in not unheard of. At least the tubers get some size on them and that is important when it comes to a russet....especially for french fries and baked potato use. 2. Aerial tubers. http://www.potatodiseases.org/images...al--tubers.jpg Quote:
3. Aerial tubers on sprouting potatoes in storage. Some varieties are prone to this malady. However, I utilize this varietal phenomena and save those aerial tubers for replanting, especially if I am trying to save tubers from potatoes that are nearly two years old. 4. Potato berries have an abscission zone on the pedicel that forms anywhere from weeks to 8 weeks after blooming. The berries "pop" off with the most gentle wind, foot traffic along the row. That abscission zone is varietal, some do it, some don't. I have done much breeding work to select for varieties that attach themselve to the vine even when the plant dies down. I have to mine the potato field like a detective to follow my potato berries back to the mother plant. It takes a lot of practice to verify the mother plant...looking at the freshly detaced berry to the flower truss to 'match' the scar on the pedicel. 5. Potato berries either fall from the mother plant...or are picked....much before the fruit is really ripe-ripe. It is a mature green potato berry much like a tomato can be a mature green. The berry will ripen post harvest for a few weeks to even months before soft ripe. The whole mentality of a potato berry is to roll out of range of the tuber plant to emerge as seedlings years after. Berries can be carried away by rodents only to be dropped elsewhere when the rodents discover it is not pleasant to eat. Rain and wind can take the dried remains fall from the original home. 6. I had a cool and wet Spring which delayed the growth of potatoes and also delayed my planting of tubers. My harvest is delayed in turn. This week will be my major berry picking time as most of the flowers set about 6 weeks ago or more. |
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