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January 17, 2012 | #1 |
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Straight from ferment to planting?
If the timing just works out that way, is there any reason not to go straight from fermenting to planting? In other words, is a dry out period beneficial?
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January 17, 2012 | #2 | |
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But no problem sowing seed straight from fermentation without drying. There have been a couple of times that I had to take fresh seeds right out of a fruit and sow the seeds without fermentation.
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January 17, 2012 | #3 | |
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How did the straight from fruit to planting work out? We are on a hard deadline to start seeds down here, being 6 weeks from plant out time. |
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January 21, 2012 | #4 |
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Just as a note, the seeds that I took straight from fermenting to planting are up in 2 days. And I mean straight, I rinsed them in the fermenting glass and poured them straight into the planter.
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January 21, 2012 | #5 |
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I just thought I would put this here instead of yet another thread.
I dont ferment due to extreme laziness. I sowed some seeds from 2007 and all of them came up with no soaking. All I do is rub off the jell coat in a tea strainer and let dry then store in a coin envelope in a box. Then the other day I see a thing on the net that says you have to ferment tomato seeds before they will sprout. And I have read that they have to dry out first. All of this is wrong and an example of how misinformation can be put out there for all to see and believe. As a matter of fact with some trees and plants it is easier to sprout the seeds if you DONT let them dry. Worth |
January 25, 2012 | #6 |
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The gel coat may inhibit germination (cause it to take longer, until
bacteria eat the gel coat), but it does not prevent it. As for drying out first, I have had seeds sprout in the fermentation container.
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Germination was about 100%. Dice, the germination inhibitor is part of the life cycle of the tomato and does not inhibit germination when the temps are OK for germination. So the purpose of that inhibitor is to keep the seeds dormant thru the winter or colder times when ripesfruits fall to the ground. And then we know them as volunteers when they pop up in the Spring when temps allow for germination.
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January 27, 2012 | #8 |
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I had some Moravsky Div fruit shrivel up and dry out before I got around
to fermenting them. I crumbled them up in a bag and saved them. The next spring, I sprouted some of those seeds in coir, and they came up about the same time as everything else that had seeds only a year or two old.
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January 27, 2012 | #9 |
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Hi everyone
I tried this test- I planted seeds straight from a tomato and; Fermanted seeds from the same variety and then planted them. Even though the fermenting took 2-3 days the fermented seeds came up before the first lot did. So in my experience if you want a quick germination ferment and plant wet. Cheers Max |
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