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August 29, 2012 | #1 |
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New ideas for an old problem?
I recently came across this which I believe will help with some of the troubles on this forum.
Well worth a read. {http://www.udel.edu/udaily/2013/aug/beneficial-soil-bacteria-082712.html} Comments? Last edited by beeman; August 29, 2012 at 02:03 PM. Reason: Trying to get the html settings working to supply the link shortcut. No go! |
August 29, 2012 | #2 |
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Lose those fancy symbols before http and after html.Good read.copy and paste without the symbols and it went through for me.
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August 29, 2012 | #3 |
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Yep, those curly brackets will get you nowhere.
Too set the HTML, just paste the link as you did, then highlight the link text, click on the "Insert Link" icon and then paste the link again, hit OK and you're done. http://www.udel.edu/udaily/2013/aug/...ia-082712.html |
August 29, 2012 | #4 |
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Comments on the article?
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August 29, 2012 | #5 |
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August 29, 2012 | #6 |
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Interesting read. Same stuff in Serenade spray.
Was wondering about a commercial product available to use as a soil innoculant - and AM Hydro makes one. http://store.amhydro.com/Companion-M...-p/ba88040.htm Promix also makes a product that includes it. I use the Promix BX with myco's with good success and they also have Promix BX with biofungicide. http://www.growercentral.com/UPLOADS...2809-07%29.pdf Just checked their website and low and behold they just came out with a product that includes both BS and mycorrhizae. http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/new...products-2012/ http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/pro...rowing-medium/ |
August 29, 2012 | #7 |
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The most sure fire way that I have read about is the soil steam sterilization injection process used by greenhouse and some commercial operations.Although expensive it will kill the spores in the soil including the beneficials.Reamending the soil is done after to reintroduce nutrients and beneficials.http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs1158
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August 29, 2012 | #9 |
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That's an interesting discovery how Bacillus subtilis can effect stomata. I usually think of Bacillus subtilis for its anti-fungal compounds and as an organic decomposer.
So little is still known how all the species of beneficial bacteria, Trichoderma and mycorrhizae interact with the plant and each other, but what is known is that they all take part in providing plant available nutrients and have positive effects on pathogen control and increasing disease resistance in plants. I'm totally sold on the benefits. I've never seen such disease resistance against the common scourges of my tomato plants (Early Blight and Septoria) since I've been inoculating with beneficial's these past two seasons. It's also very inexpensive and easy to do. |
September 4, 2012 | #10 |
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A very interesting article, thanks for posting it!
In an extremely unscientific approach, I have thrown everything at my tomatoes this year...and it has worked! I innoculated at each stage, starting with planting the seeds. I also treated my plants a couple times with aspirin and Actinovate, and sprayed with Daconil and Actinovate regularly. In past years, my plants would begin declining due to disease in July, and I'd be lucky to get any edible fruit in August. This year my plants are mostly still healthy in September, with lots of fruit yet to ripen! One has septoria, but the other 6 are just fine. The only plants I'm having any read trouble with are two of my four dwarves. I got these plants as seedlings, and to my knowledge they were not innoculated when the seeds were planted. I wonder if that has made any difference? I have read somewhere that the timing of the first fertilization impacts overall health and productivity. Maybe timing of innoculation has an impact as well?
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Since were on the subject of Bacillus subtilis this link might be of some interest. Ami
http://rense.com/general4/bac.htm
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Hopefully I can fix the garbage I'm producing every year. I suspect Corky Root Rot. |
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September 6, 2012 | #14 |
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Do you use the same products and approach as Ami?
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I planted seeds in "tomato" sized peat plugs that I hydrated with a scoop of Plant Success in one gallon of water. Once they got a second set of true leaves, I upotted them into 2.5 quart plastic pots and innoculated them with the Plant Success again. At plant out, I innoculated them once more, and gave them a shot of Actinovate drench. After learning about the benefits of using aspirin, I gave each plant a drench of water into which I dissolved one 325 mg uncoated aspirin. Probably later than I should have, I started spraying the plants with Daconil regularly. I used the concentrate in a hose-end sprayer, and it was easy-peezy. Here are some pictures of my plants taken last Tuesday. Oh, sorry, I keep getting a "missing token" error message when I try to upload my photos. Anyone know how to fix this?
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